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Report: BLM co-founder lobbying wing funded by pro-Communist China group

2020.09.16 03:01 autotldr Report: BLM co-founder lobbying wing funded by pro-Communist China group

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The co-founder of Black Lives Matter, Alicia Garza, partnered with a pro-Chinese Communist Party group to fund its lobbying operations in the United States.
A 2009 Stanford University paper documented its Marxist ties, saying that "The CPA began as a Leftist, pro-People's Republic of China organization, promoting awareness of mainland China's revolutionary thought and workers' rights, and dedicated to self-determination, community control, and 'serving the people.'".
The group, which has been frequently praised by China's state-run media, continued supporting the communist regime since the paper was published.
Recently, the CPA partnered with the People's Republic of China to help Chinese nationals renew their passports, and it sponsored the raising of China's flag over Boston's City Hall to honor the Communist Party's takeover of China.
Black Lives Matter officials have openly admitted to following a Marxist agenda, including co-founder Patrisse Cullors, who said in a 2015 interview that the group is led by "Trained Marxists."
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2020.09.14 20:46 Rey_del_Doner Why Turkish-Israeli relations deteriorated, and why they're unlikely to return to the level of the 1990s.

Most of the commentary on the deterioration of Turkish-Israeli ties are about Erdoğan's "Islamist" or "neo-Ottomanist" agenda, that there was no international political context to justify his decision-making, and that he single-handedly changed the orientation of Turkish foreign policy. This post will show that Erdoğan has been rational, not ideological, in managing relations with Israel. His personal sympathies, political base, and confrontational style obviously have played a role, but he's been following the same consistent policy in which Turkey expands relations with the Arab and Muslim world in response to the changing international environment. Turkish support for Palestinians was also seen by secular politicians like President Sezer and Prime Minister Ecevit, who opened Turkey's first PLO office in 1979. Ecevit also called Israel's 2002 Jenin operation a "genocide."
Ahead of the 2003 Iraq War, the U.S. CRS report stated, "Analysts view Erdogan as a pragmatist, and he declared that it was in the national interest to respond favorably to the U.S. request to deploy troops to Turkey." Support for U.S. use of İncirlik was opposed within Erdoğan's own party, and CHP voted as a bloc to reject the resolution. Erdoğan also defended contracting Israeli firms in the demining of the Turkish-Syrian border. This was again met with opposition even within his own party, and would have allowed Israeli firms to demine the area and use it for organic farming for 44 years.
The 1990s
The 2003 Iraq War
The Future of Turkish-Israeli Relations
While the Arab world's importance to Turkey's economy and security has been growing, improved ties with Israel would provide Turkey with many benefits. Mutual interests will bring the two closer, but there will not be a return to the level of the 1990s.
Israeli-Palestinian violence is now a much greater obstacle to Turkish-Israeli strategic relations. They also have a polarizing effect domestically for Turkey. As mentioned above, Turkish leaders have had a history of pragmatism on the issue, but the Turkish public has probably become excessively and increasingly anti-American and anti-Israel since the 2003 Iraq War, Israel's 2008-2009 Gaza offensive, the 2010 Mavi Marmara incident, the 2016 failed coup, U.S. and Israeli support for YPG in Syria, etc. Genocide in Bosnia and the rejection of Turkey's EU membership are two additional psychological barriers to the Turkish public ever fully embracing the West, or fully turning its back to the rest of the Islamic world.
Turkey recently came under fire for hosting Hamas officials, but news later emerged that Qatar brokered an Israel-Hamas ceasefire. If Turkey played a role in this, it could pave the way for a rapprochement. The U.S. has always been supportive of Turkey and Israel repairing ties. Israel has tried to build ties with numerous other countries, including Romania, Greece, Cyprus, South Sudan, and Azerbaijan, but these countries aren't a substitute for Turkey's strategic value.
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2020.09.09 01:24 TychoLoor 2020 Season 4 - Release Notes [2020.09.08.01]

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This season release includes two new vehicles, three new tracks, driver customization, environmental sounds, NASCAR pit lights, extensive updates for the McLaren MP4-30, paint shop upgrades, League Sessions view, and much more! Welcome to iRacing 2020 Season 4!
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2020.09.08 23:59 Inter_Mirifica Full transcript of Juninho's 2 hours interview on RMC OL: THE TRUTHS OF JUNINHO

Full transcript (~40k characters, you've been warned) of Juninho's 2 hours interview on RMC (DeepL translated). But it's Juni, so it's always worth it to read and listen to him (don't expect ground breaking transfer news though)
(And the audio version, for the french speakers. Juni starts at 15:35 and talks until the end. So more like 70 minutes of interview and not 2 hours, sorry).
Special and exceptional guest of Top of the Foot this Tuesday on RMC, the director of OL Juninho delivered as he rarely did.
Juninho, how do you see your role in relation to the media?
I left in 2009, there were a lot of expectations, there were doubts. I came back 10 years later, the club has grown a lot, it played a European Cup semi-final in 2010 as well. In the first season, I was a little naive, I was a little bit naive at the beginning, maybe I was talking a little too much. Then I thought about how to behave right away to show the players that I came back. I chose not to talk too much, the first three months Sylvinho came with me, unfortunately we didn't get the results we had hoped for. Changing coaches after 3 months put even more pressure. I chose not to talk too much outside to gain the confidence of the players.
Do you totally want to act with your principles and ideas, put your touch ?
We ended the first season with a group that was short of things, 10 days and 30 points to go. Of course we weren't going to finish second and third, it was going to be very hard. In the end it's the coach who decides the team but today I'm back home, I feel at home as before. I get along well with Rudi, it makes things easier. In the end it's the results that count and this year we are not in the Europa League or the Champions League. We start the season with one goal in mind: to qualify for the Champions League next season because that's what the fans are waiting for.
Does your relationship with Rudi Garcia correspond to your expectations about the team's play?
I had a closer relationship with Sylvinho, we came together. We had to choose another coach, we chose together with the president. Rudi has a lot of experience, I felt that he made a lot of effort to settle in as soon as possible. I explained to him at the time that he lacked discipline, which he managed to change. Concerning the game, we never played with 3 defenders, we played in 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, it was a bit like the DNA of the OL. Sometimes you have to take a step back, you have to accept that it doesn't work as well, you try to play with 3 defenders and it gives satisfaction. For me, it's better to play in 3-5-2 to play with 2 forwards than in 4-4-2. Today we're more of a team that leaves the ball to the opponents, tactically well set up to save the season. If I'm looking for a great team that plays in 4-4-2 today, only Atletico comes to mind. Perhaps Atletico Madrid is suffering a little when it comes to confirming, without criticizing Simeone who for me is one of the best coaches. The system that Rudi has found in our team is good, we play 3 behind but it is Maxwell (Cornet) who plays left lane. That is to say that we can change during the game, go to 4-3-3, with the departure of Marçal we have to discuss a little bit about that. But with Marçal for example, if you want to change the 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 during the game, you can make Maxwell pass to the right, Memphis pass to the left and Moussa or Karl pass to the center forward and play with the three midfielders. Today, is it worth changing the system we have to start League 1 in a different way? For me, I would say no. Rudi decides. Maybe with the passing season, with the departures, the arrivals, we'll think about it. But Rudi now has a system in hand, and the players also understand how it works. Marçal is gone, who are you going to put on the left side when it works well with Maxwell? Do you have to pass Jason on the left, do you have to play Marcelo on the right?
Are you going to recruit someone in place of Marçal?
For the moment I would say no because we have Joakim (Andersen), Marcelo and Jason (Denayer) and we have Sinaly Diomandé whom you will soon get to know. I believe very much in this young player, to play left and right even if he doesn't have the experience. With Bruno Cheyrou, we've already worked and we have 2-3 names coming up already. If we are able to make the investment, we will do it.
Wasn't the decision to fire Sylvinho a bit too fast?
I don't know. There's a lot of pressure in soccer when there are no results. We discussed it together and we thought it was better for the OL. There are times when you have to make decisions so you never know if it's the right one or not. I would say in retrospect that it was the best decision. It took a little more discipline, a little more experience. I thought that with Sylvinho's way of working and his tactical ability, we would be able to put something in place right away, but there was also a locker room that demanded a lot, there were certain moods, you had to explain to the players without being aggressive. That's not how it works, today it's changed a lot. I think Rudi had the experience to do that, he succeeded quickly. We scored 8 points in the first part of the C1 with Sylvinho, normally you don't qualify but it was a very balanced group. Luckily we moved up to second place but in the last match we could finish fourth as first. Sometimes this happens also in C1. I think Sylvinho has the ability to be a good coach but at the time we had to make decisions and I think the best thing was to change.
Have you ever thought of leaving OL or doubted because of the remarks of the supporters or the media reception?
Honestly, I'm a human being so I'm afraid. If I say no, that I am brave, I am not afraid, it is not true. We have feelings, desires, dreams and we have weaknesses. I am afraid at times. But it is not fear that will make me stop. Of course it happens when you have doubts, when you ask yourself questions, is it good to continue or not? It happens to everyone, even if some will say no.
Do you sometimes tell yourself that it's not for you, that there are too many emotions or too much harshness?
It's not that it's not for me. I think I'm capable, I'm honest, I work, I've played 20 years in football, in the United States, in Asia, in Brazil, in the Champions League, in the World Cup. So I have a background as a player, I've come from very far away, I've known all the levels, the lower levels in Brazil too. But it's human, there are a lot of expectations, the fans can't think, put aside that it's over, I'm no longer a player. Maybe I brought a little bit of luck when I arrived, the fans think that it was my arrival that changed everything. No, it was a long-term job that the president was doing at the OL. Before me they were almost champions too so it's a bit of a coincidence too and I arrived at the right time. It's this waiting that disturbs you a bit, sometimes you wonder.
When did you have the most doubts, when Sylvinho is thanked?
I asked myself the question too, you start to get a little scared several times. But there are also happier moments when you say to yourself, 'OK, we've found a plan, it's going to work'. Finally, I think the ideal is to think about it in the medium term, 2-3 years minimum, so that you can analyze what you are doing. When I left, I discovered a club with 50 employees and today there are 500. That's also important. There is also the president's speech, today he is the boss. He wanted to put me on an easier situation and then maybe it was a bit harder. He is always there, I need him, the OL needs the president, all of this makes you ask questions but things that make you say "it's over". I have a family, I have moved, my wife is very happy in Lyon. I also think about my family, I have to fight for them too but it is not my story that will keep my place. After 2-3 years we will all be judged and I hope with good results.
What ingredients do you use to challenge yourself and add value knowing that you are dependent on results?
The best thing to do at this time is to talk less, observe things, breathe, take the time, talk one-on-one with the players. Today, I can say that honestly, maybe it's going to be a bit of an exaggeration, but I get along well with all the players, I manage to have personal relationships with all of them. I see them often, not the whole squad and every week. This afternoon I'm going to see Jeff again, we're going to talk, we've already exchanged messages. I have a different relationship with the coach, that's good too. That's how I do it when it's hot, observe things, see how it works, take a step back, talk to Rudi, give my opinion, ask questions, and then let Rudi work quietly. I also have a relationship with the staff. It was a bit more difficult, I arrived there was a staff in place for a long time. Today I get along very well with Gerald Baticle too, Claudio and I have been together for a long time, so we have kept a friendship, it's easier with me. There was the departure of Greg, the arrival of Christophe Revel with whom we already get along very well. All this took a long time and today things are working naturally. The staff knows how I think, I know what the staff needs too but when it's so hot it's better to take a step back, observe things, not let indiscipline bother everyone. I'm pretty open, listening to the players but of course there is a limit to what I can accept.
You have often heard you say that some players don't have the high level requirement or a lack of regularity. What can you say about that? Are things changing?
Yes, they have changed quite a bit. The first thing that surprised me was the intensity of training. For me and for all ambitious players, training is already a game. You can't afford to train with 60% intensity and then want to play 100% during the games. When I saw the first training sessions, some players would take hits and stop for two or three minutes. I was a little surprised with that. I figured if you had that intensity in training you weren't going to make it. I was a little surprised. Afterwards, I found that there were no bad guys in the locker room. Most of them were really nice kids.
Too nice?
I would say they are nice. But there was a lot of selfishness. That selfishness exists, it's logical to have personal plans but from the moment you are a team what is your goal. In a team you are not necessarily a friend but you have a common goal with OL is to succeed and win. If the moods come before the team you cannot succeed. That's why we were a good irregular team. The training intensity was not ideal, today it's totally different. The intensities are perfect in training. It's embarrassing to talk about it because it doesn't go into my head. If you arrive in Liverpool, Real or City and you train at 60% or 80% of your level on Saturday, without your coach saying anything, you're in the stands. I'm not saying we're being held hostage, but...
Yes because the players have a value and it's difficult to put them in the stands...
That's it. That's a little bit of that. Maybe with Rudi Garcia we are able to do certain things but we have to step back and explain, kiss, laugh a little.
Is it difficult for you to manage this different generation? Have some players evolved?
Yes, there have been changes. The way I talk is the same as when I talk to everyone. I asked them what they wanted and why we were there. The goal is to get OL as high as possible. If players want to leave, what are the bigger clubs? Apart from the world's top... The OL pays good salaries. When you are young you learn but when you have signed your contract you are able to meet the demand. It is an exchange. The club recognizes the value of the players, and after signing an important contract the player is obliged to give everything on the field. I'm not saying he is obliged to win, nobody is obliged to win. But a player is obliged to prepare himself during the week to give his maximum every time during the weekend. That's what was missing. If in the squad you have three or four players, and important players, who slow down in training, you're going to have a very irregular season. Instead of scoring 25 goals, I prefer the forwards to score 12 or 13 but make defensive efforts, have the attitude, make forward calls to relieve you when the team suffers. If you have guys who are always positive, I think you'll make it through the season. Focusing on personal stats is going to be good for them, it's even going to fool the press analysis. I'm not here to be mean, to take money away from them or give them a smaller contract. Or ask them to leave. If we are all here, it is to have the same goal.
Is there a mental or technical problem in your opinion?
It's not necessarily a lack of desire. I would rather say it's the lack of responsibility for the high level. It's a lack of ambition. It's not understanding what your profession is. It goes by too fast. For me, the thing that gave me the most pleasure was playing soccer. Until today, I have never found the same pleasure. Soccer is a profession that passes quickly. Sometimes you don't get a second or third opportunity. That was more the problem. When you don't have enough leaders in your squad, it's maybe even harder. That's why I spoke openly with you journalists and with the players.
Did the C1 run make you want to build a more defensive team with a transitional game rather than a possession-based playstyle ?
The truth is that it took humility to accept that we could play against better teams. We played Juve and if we passed we had Manchester City and then Bayern. Why not accept that they were a bit stronger and that we had to adapt to these teams. But now League 1 is starting again and we will have the possibility to have more possession. We will never forget that the most important thing is the ball. If we have the ball, we have more opportunity to score. Naturally, we have a technical team and we are able to keep the ball. But during the Champions League, I would say it was an adaptation. Maybe it was also a change in the mentality of the team. The players proved that this was the best way. We often talk about tactics or a club's DNA... The truth is that soccer has changed in fifteen or twenty years. I started my career in 1993 or 1994 when Brazil won its fourth World Cup. Most of the teams were playing 4-4-2 with two midfielders who were only playing 4-4-2. Afterwards, with the evolution, the players went faster and there were fewer spaces so we moved back the number 10's like Luka Modric or Toni Kroos. They are ten but they are slower players in a faster soccer so we moved them back a notch so that they could see the game in front of the game and have a better possession. Since 2013 or 2014, there are other changes. Why do we have goalies like now? Guardiola did that first. Before, when we gave the ball to the goalkeeper, he would close his eyes and release it right away. Nowadays, to have possession, you have to be able to get out of the dry cleaners. Now you give the ball to the goalkeeper and he clears it away and you have a chance to play but it's dangerous because it's close to your goal. Today when you come out from behind you have to have a goalie who has the courage to play. The coach has to tell him that it's not his fault if he misses. In Lyon, Anthony Lopes has already made a lot of progress in this respect. The defenders are going to play too. Today when you attack and you lose the ball, you shouldn't be in a state of mind. It's right away, the one who lost and the two or three players next to him must try to get the ball back immediately. Otherwise you have to rebuild from behind each time. It's something you don't do because it's hard to do. If you are a second late or a partner doesn't recover, your opponent gains confidence and you are forced to run 60 meters behind. Today, it's still not ideal. We need to do more about that. Another important thing is on the stopped balls and we are weak on that. It's not only a problem of the shooter but also the synchronization with the players in the surface and the desire to win the duels. This sector proves that we are too nice because we have to have the desire to win the duels to score.
Will Memphis Depay go to Barça?
We haven't officially received anything for Memphis. So far we haven't received a proposal for Memphis. Before his cruciate ligament injury, President Jean-Michel Aulas made a lot of effort and made him a proposal to extend his stay. But we have respected Memphis' wishes, who said "I have a headache, I want to concentrate on my recovery, I want to play the Euro". There was no Covid yet, so those were his plans. We respected, we chose to wait a little before seeing. But you know how soccer is and when a 26-year-old player is at the end of his contract and there is a club like Barça behind it, one of the biggest teams in the world, it makes a player dream. I would say that today, Memphis Depay is in a strong position because he is at the end of his contract. If a proposal arrives from Barcelona, we will have to think about it. But today we're also able to keep Memphis sporty and use him until the end of the season before losing him free because he won't want to prolong it. This is what is in the balance now. Do we keep Memphis until the end of the season and he helps us as the captain and the talented player that he is? He brings us to the best possible position in the championship. Or do we accept a transfer and take the money to make other investments? These are the questions we ask ourselves but we don't have the 100% answer.
There is no chance that it will be extended?
For us there is the interest to extend it. The president is capable of making the effort. But what I sense from Memphis is that it's going to be difficult. That's my feeling after talking with him.
Has Memphis Depay asked to open the door or to negotiate a departure to Barça?
He hasn't asked for anything. Before he left for the national team, I asked him about Barça. I asked if he had received any calls, he said no. He said no, no calls. But well...it speaks. Koeman is the coach so maybe it's going to happen. We don't know. It's not easy. It's not Barça's question because the president is ready to face it and that reassures us a little bit. But hey...of course the player is in a position of strength.
Have you made any progress on the departures of Aouar and Dembélé?
We haven't received anything officially. They are players from whom we have received calls but no official offer. They are very valuable players. Houssem knows the house well, he's been with us for a long time, we saw at the Final 8 what he was able to do when he's really focused on the game. I wouldn't say the door is open, but we risk losing Houssem and Moussa of course. But for sure we're not going to lose all three at the same time. We already have files behind us, I'm open to explain everything in the best possible way. I'm not going to give names behind, we have players of the same level or maybe who are more ambitious to continue at home.
We have 28 players today to play in League 1 and it's not easy to manage all that. We play next Friday in Bordeaux, we have the match on Tuesday in Montpellier, we receive Nimes on Friday. We're going to have three games in one week, so Rudi will rotate the squad. From the moment you play one match per weekend for 38 days, you'll have a typical team. We need others to make the difference, we have 5 changes, but we need a state of mind, players who are there for that. But 28 players is too many.
So they won't be replaced?
Some won't. Marçal is gone but we have Joakim (Andersen), Jason (Denayer), Marcelo and Sinaly (Diomandé). There is Cenk (Ozkacar) which is a project that Bruno Cheyrou presented to us. We don't know if we'll keep it but it's a player with a future. There is Leo Dubois on the right side, Rafael and Tete (Rafael left the club this Tuesday afternoon). On the other side, we have Youssouf Koné, Melvin Bard and Maxwell who gives satisfaction. The middle is Bruno, Thiago, Jean Lucas who didn't have much opportunity but Rudi believes in him. There is Maxence who is a very important player, Jeff despite all his problems last year, we believe in his talent. We must not forget that we recruited Tino Kadewere, we believe in him a lot and we have Moussa in front, there is Karl, Rayan. I don't think that's going to happen (to lose the 3 players). But if it happens, we will replace them. If there is only one start or two, we don't know yet.
An offer from Arsenal with Guendouzi for Aouar?
I get along very well with the sports director. We spoke on the phone. He is really appreciated by Arteta. There have been some discussions for Matteo who is also a good player. He was mentioned during the discussion. But it's not the profile we need, we were very clear. If it's like that, we're not interested in it at all, that's what we stopped.
After that, I called his agent, we talked, I called Vincent Ponsot too, I explained everything. That's where it stopped. I also called Houssem's brother with whom I get along well. I called them both to explain my exchange.
Houssem is younger than Memphis, he's from the house, his entourage knows all about Olympique Lyonnais. I get along very well with his brother Brahim. With his agent they told me 'we leave him alone, he's still young', we don't talk too much with him about that, I help him with his game like Rudi and the staff do. For the transfer you speak with us directly. With Houssem, I talked very little about leaving.
Marçal was at the end of his contract, he came to see me, he came to see the coach. He told me 'Juni, it's an opportunity, I'm not going to extend my contract because you didn't offer to extend it, it's an opportunity for me'. Finally we discussed with the president and we reached an agreement.
(Houssem) He has a very important contract with us, we have to think about that. It's not the OL of 20 years ago, today the club has the capacity to make good contracts, it's one of the best contracts in the club. It is respectful towards the institution also because this is where it started. It is intelligent, it is rather easy to settle. But maybe in a couple of weeks, I'll tell you differently with the deal coming to an end, maybe he's going to have his head spinning. My concern with him is that he's keeping his mind set for the games that are coming up, that's the most important thing. He's got Covid, he's going to start again in 12 days with the squad because of the quarantine.
There is an interest from Manchester City and the PSG?
I think it went directly to the agents. We haven't been contacted directly. Maybe Vincent Ponsot was contacted with Manchester City, I'm not sure. It's like that with these two teams, they are two huge teams that play to win the C1 every year, they have the capacity for that and that makes every player dream. I don't know if Houssem is ready to change his plans for a big League 1 team like PSG; for City, of course Guardiola likes the player but is this the profile they are looking for today? We don't know either and we haven't received an official offer.
What about Moussa Dembélé?
Moussa is young, he still has room for improvement, he has an enormous physical capacity. He's someone who is really attracted to goals, he's capable of scoring a lot of goals but he sometimes lacks a little bit of concentration. We will have to improve at this level, he dreams of making the national team. He has been pre-selected several times, I think he will make it, with Giroud it's a possibility for Didier Deschamps. He's a forward in the profession, he's easy to manage so far. For me, it's interesting from a sporting point of view that he stays with us, that he continues to progress, that he puts himself at the disposal of the staff, without a ball a little more than what he used to do before because he's capable of doing it. If he progresses, perhaps his value will be greater than it is now.
Can we imagine a return of Umtiti?
That's not our level of contract. Most of these players... In January, I called Alexandre Lacazette to discuss a little bit with him because he had some problems with Arsenal and I said: 'Why not a six-month loan with us where you will have fun, play every game and score goals like you know how to do? And then you go back to Arsenal or somewhere else. But from the moment you look at the contract level of these players, like at Juventus or Barça, it's not for us today. Today, we have to tell the truth, we can't pay the salary of an Umtiti. But if the player is looking for a project, if he makes an effort with perhaps a longer contract, if he wants to go home, then I'll go and look for him right away.
Can he be receptive to that? Have you presented this project to him?
We haven't gotten that far.
Have you tried Thiago Silva?
I dreamed. (Laughs.) I tried to reach him several times. I talked a little bit with his agent at first but I understood right away that it was impossible. For me, Thiago Silva is still one of the best defenders in the world, we saw it with the final he made, and I dreamed about these players. I could tell him: 'Play 22 games, stay with us for two years and then maybe we can find something for you here to start a new life'. I thought about it and I talked to President Aulas about it and told him that maybe such a project could be interesting for him because he is passionate about soccer. But it was not possible for us. The supporters sometimes think that we don't do things but we tried because I thought it could really do us good.
What is the situation with Jeff Reine-Adélaïde after his interview where he complained?
First of all, it was a surprise for us because we had never discussed these things with him before. If we thought that Houssem could leave and we had Jeff in our squad who wasn't playing with his crusader injury, you don't need to go looking for someone else. You have Maxence Caqueret who can also take over from Houssem and become a more offensive player than what he is for the moment, what he is capable of being. So it wasn't planned and we were surprised. But when things like that happen, you have to breathe, you have to analyze things. I spoke with his brother again yesterday and I think it was an incredible lack of experience. You can talk and say you're not happy, it happened to us when we were gamblers, but that's the way to talk... You can criticize something at a time but you can't touch the institution. You can criticize something at one moment but you can't touch the institution. From the moment you criticize the institution, more important things happen behind it, with the supporters who are not happy and put even more pressure on you. Jeff is not a bad person, not at all, and I had a very good relationship with him. We exchanged messages this morning and we'll see each other this afternoon. I think it's easy to work it out. He himself knows that he went a bit far, that he was angry because Houssem was not ready to play against Dijon, he thought it would be him but Rudi decided to play in 3-4-3, to change a bit to play with three forwards. Just needed a little more patience. Sometimes, especially nowadays, players think that being a substitute in two or three games is a bit humiliating, as if you lose a bit of your value. But that's really not it.
Mentalities are changing, young people see themselves as better than those around them...
That's just it. That's exactly what it's all about. You have to be calm, you have to know how to choose the right words to speak. As I say, and it's true, it doesn't bother me. I've already said this: if you don't want to say hello, that's fine, but never forget that we both have the same goal, which is to win in the end. We have the same goal. Even if we don't get along very well together, from the moment you put on the jersey and go out on the field, you forget everything and you give everything for the club.
Especially after having spent a lot of money on him and having given him a substantial salary .
That's it. I spoke with his brother about that. Why would we invest 25 million on a player and not believe in him? It doesn't make sense.
The objective is that he stays? We saw an interest from Rennes...
Yes. It can happen. From the moment a player says he wants to leave, I'm honest, there are calls, even if there hasn't been a concrete proposal. But his departure is not planned. He is under contract. He's been here for a year, but how many months has he been playing with us after all? Four months. Then he had his injury and the Covid. Now he's coming back. It wasn't planned. I don't want to advance myself 100%, not to be accused of lying afterwards, but letting him go is not in our heads.
We feel anxiety among the supporters who hear about many departures but no arrivals. Are there going to be arrivals and how many?
It's not about arrivals because when you say you want to buy a player, other clubs come behind and the price goes up. Of course we already have files, I wouldn't say advanced but...
*Like Facundo Pellistri, the Uruguayan prospect? *
Him, I can talk about it because it's already too much out there. I like this player, I like his profile because he's 18 years old, he's a young Uruguayan with a European passport, which means he doesn't take a place as a non-EU player. I also like the state of mind of Uruguayans and I'm looking for profiles like that. He's a corridor player but also works defensively, he already has experience because being a regular at Penarol at 18 is not easy. I've played there several times and it's a very violent championship. And at 18, he's a great player. But it's not an easy case because there are a lot of clubs behind it. Penarol doesn't give up easily. Instead, they're looking for a partner who will sell the player. Maybe we're in a strong position because it's more interesting to sell to a club like us, where the player has the possibility to be sold afterwards, whereas if he goes directly to a club like City or United... In fact, Diego Forlan was the coach before, and since he played at United, there were apparently discussions with Manchester. In any case, it's a profile that I like very much, yes, even if today we have a lot of players in this position, including Rayan Cherki, but it's a bit like the DNA of the OL to invest in young people like him. We continue to talk about him but we don't know if it will happen.
OL sold Gouiri to Nice, Kalulu too, and OL is looking for a central defender and an offensive player. Do you regret it? Do you understand the regrets of the Lyon fans?
There are no regrets now, but maybe in a year's time we will have some. These are two different issues. Amine was compared to the new Benzema and we believed in him because of his talent. But he got his injury at the crusaders and it took a little time for him to recover his place. Afterwards, in the big teams, there is always a lot of competition in attack. There was a lot for him and he didn't have a lot of playing time so we thought about lending him out. A lot of clubs were in the ranks. We thought he would be able to play, show what he can do and then come back to us and win. That was our idea. But Amine was a little disappointed, a little vengeful, and he told us: 'I don't want to be loaned out, you transfer me for good or I won't leave'. We were in a bit of trouble and we didn't want to hurt the player, who grew up with us. You have to have respect too. The fans sometimes saw him playing with the reserves and scoring two or three goals, but you can't compare him with the pros, even though he started the season well. In any case, he has everything he needs to have a great career.
People don't necessarily understand, we often talk about a player's lack of respect towards a club but not enough about the opposite, there the respect is mutual...
That's what it's all about. Amine is a little shy but we talked several times. He's a very nice person, polite, and he said he didn't want to be lent. That put us in a bit of trouble and after the Covid, Nice arrived and made a proposal. We knew that the supporters were not going to be happy with this decision to let him go but we are also there, unfortunately for some, to make decisions. Did we take the right one or the wrong one? We'll know in a few years from now how he's progressing. And I hope that we will say yes. Because if we say that we took the wrong decision, it is because Amine will have succeeded and that is what I wish him. For Pierre, I assume that maybe it was a mistake on our part. Maybe we took too long to sign his first contract. We had to sign Pierre at the same time as we signed Melvin Bard or Maxence Caqueret, they were a bit of the same generation, but for Pierre there were discussions between the reserve coaches and us to find out what his position really was. In the end, I had a doubt about defence, also because he was too nice. A defenceman who is too nice, either you're Thiago Silva or you're not going to play. It's not going to work unless you're huge like Thiago Silva or Marquinhos, even if Marquinhos is not a nice guy like Thiago. (Laughs.) Afterwards, we said to ourselves: 'Maybe Rafael and Kenny Tete will leave because they are in their last year of contract, so we have the solution: Kalulu replacing Léo Dubois in the position of right-back'. We called his daddy, I talked a lot with him, Tony Parker intervened, the president too, and we made a better proposal than Milan but once again, the player was spiteful. It's the young people. Because we didn't value him enough, he didn't want to step back and say he wanted to stay. We tried a lot but he decided to go to Milan, which is a very great team. But I don't know if it was the right decision for him.
Will Lyon continue to train quality young people so that it can continue to prosper economically, since the salaries of the big players are unattainable?
We have to, yes. That's one of the first things the president told me. I know that it is also what made the club grow. But it's impossible to bring out two or three regular players to your club every year. There are two stages in a career, that's what I tell the young people I have the opportunity to talk to. The first is to succeed in signing your first pro contract and make it to the first team. And some of them stop there after that. The second step is the hardest one, which is to settle down with the pros, to be a really important player in a team that you're on as a pro. That's the hardest step because there's pressure all around. The fans judge you differently when you're with the youngsters than when you're with the pros. The same goes for the media. Some of them are very strong with the youngsters but they can't do it with the pros. Others are not so good with the youngsters but manage to play with the pros. There are no rules or anything you have to do to make sure you can train the kids well. In our country, we always have to think about training young people. We need that and that's what our supporters are asking for, so we're going to continue to do it. Now, there is another generation coming up behind us. It's hard to name names because sometimes you forget one and it will affect a little one who will not be motivated afterwards. But we will always think about that, of course. If Léo, Rafael and Kenny leave, we will see if we have options at home, because we know we already have some. We're always going to think about that and invest in it. There's Maxence who's starting today, Melvin and Rayan who played .
Do you have the idea of bringing Benzema back with a project in the coming years?
It's our dream to see Karim finish with us. Today, he is still very successful. It's interesting, even for him, if he agrees to come back, not to really reach the descending phase, but I think he's someone who pays a lot of attention to him physically and who has important physical capacities. It's everyone's dream here to see him come back to us to do maybe two seasons, play the Champions League with us, score goals, help us get good results, be a leader, wear the armband, bring all his experience with his four wins in C1, of which he is one of the top scorers. Are we going to succeed or not? I don't know. Of course, we'll have to make an effort because we can't pay the salary he earns at Real Madrid. We are waiting for the right moment. We played together, I met him when he came to the pros at the age of 17, we got along very well unlike what people thought at the time and I think I helped him a lot with the discussions we had at the time. He's someone with incredible talent. With his whole history, it's a dream for us.
Do you have a career plan for the position of sporting director, like a player can do?
That's a good question. My daughter asked me last night if I would see myself afterwards in another city. My plan, honestly, is to spend a minimum of five years here and succeed in helping the club to have good results, to get more young people out and to have a team where many of them play, but especially to be able to play several seasons in the Champions League and dream of being able to win a trophy. Today, the closest one, even if it is difficult, is the French Cup. This year, and the players know about it, the goal is to come back to C1, so you have to finish in the first three. You're arguing this with Lille, Rennes, Nice, Marseille or Monaco, opponents who are also capable of finishing in the top three even if I leave Paris aside. The goal is this: to help the club to continue to grow and to be able to do a job in the medium and long term. Maybe it won't last long, but I also hope that it may last longer. The goal is to settle down for the long term.
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2020.09.07 05:28 Floodman11 Everything you need to know for the 2020 24 Hours of Le Mans - Ask your questions here!

With only days separating us from the 88th running of the 24 Heures du Mans, it's time again for the Le Mans Primer thread! This is the place if you’ve got any questions about the 2020 Le Mans event, no matter how small! There are no dumb questions about Le Mans!

CONTENTS

The Race

The 24 Heures du Mans brings up its 88th edition this year, and is the holy grail of endurance motor racing. After its first running in 1923, the course and cars have evolved to become the premier event in the World Endurance Championship, and the event is recognised as the most prestigious test for innovations in motorsport technology. Technologies such as disk and air brakes, streamlined bodywork, and a variety of engine configurations were trialled and tested at the 24 hours of Le Mans. The Mazda 787b (oh god listen to that sound!) was the first, and so far only car to win running a Wankel Rotary engine, winning in 1991. Audi brought diesel engines their first success in 2006 with the R10 TDI, and then brought Hybrid technology to victory for the first time in 2012 with the R18 e-tron Quattro.
For the first time in over 50 years, the 24 Hours of Le Mans will be held in September, instead of it's normal third-weekend-in-June date. This will mean more night time running, potentially more inclement weather, and a spectacle unlike any other Le Mans event!
This years edition also marks a significant first, and a significant farewell for the 24 Hours of Le Mans Event. Firstly, this year is the first year of the new Hyperpole qualifying format. In this format, all classes are permitted to use the track in the 45 minute qualifying session on Thursday evening. The top 6 cars from each of the 4 classes then progress to the Hyperpole session on Friday morning, which sets the top of the grid for each class. This means that each class will be segregated on the final grid.
Secondly, with the introduction of the LMH regulations starting next year, this is the last edition featuring LMP1 as the top class at Le Mans. The LMP moniker has been used at Le Mans since 1996, where it was used to describe purpose built race machines as opposed to the homologated LMGT1 class, which were based on road-going machinery.

Session Times

  • Road To Le Mans Practice 1 - Thursday September 17th, 08:30 Local, 06:30 UTC, 02:30 ET, 16:30 AEST - 1 Hour - Results
  • Free Practice 1 - Thursday September 17th, 10:00 Local, 08:00 UTC, 04:00 ET, 18:00 AEST - 3 Hours - RESULTS
  • Free Practice 2 - Thursday September 17th, 14:00 Local, 12:00 UTC, 08:00 ET, 22:00 AEST - 3 Hours - RESULTS
  • Qualifying Practice - Thursday September 15 Local, 15:15 UTC, 11:15 ET, Friday 01:15 AEST - 45 Minutes - RESULTS
  • Road To Le Mans Practice 2 - Thursday September 17th, 18:30 Local, 16:30 UTC, 12:30 ET, Friday 02:30 AEST - 1 Hour - Results
  • Free Practice 3 - Thursday September 17th, 20:00 Local, 18:00 UTC, 14:00 ET, Friday 04:00 AEST - 4 Hours RESULTS
  • Road To Le Mans Qualifying Practice - Friday September 18th, 08:30 Local, 06:30 UTC, 02:30 ET, 16:30 AEST - 20 Min x 2 classes
  • Free Practice 4 - Friday September 18th, 10:00 Local, 08:00 UTC, 04:00 ET, 18:00 AEST - 1 Hour
  • HYPERPOLE - Friday September 18th, 11:30 Local, 09:30 UTC, 05:30 ET, 19:30 AEST - 30 Minutes
  • Porsche Carrera Cup Practice 1 - Friday September 18th, 13:00 Local, 11:00 UTC, 07:00 ET, 21:00 AEST - 45 Minutes
  • Road To Le Mans Race 1 - Friday September 18th, 14:15 Local, 12:15 UTC, 08:15 ET, 22:15 AEST - 55 Minutes
  • Porsche Carrera Cup Practice 2 - Friday September 18th, 15:45 Local, 13:45 UTC, 09:45 ET, 23:45 AEST - 45 Minutes
  • Porsche Carrera Cup Qualifying Practice - Friday September 18th, 17:30 Local, 15:30 UTC, 11:30 ET, Saturday 01:30 AEST - 1 Hour
  • Porsche Carrera Cup Race - Saturday September 19th, 09:15 Local, 07:15 UTC, 03:15 ET, 17:15 AEST - 45 Minutes
  • Warm Up - Saturday September 19th, 10:30 Local, 08:30 UTC, 04:30 ET, 18:30 AEST - 15 Minutes
  • Road to Le Mans Race 2 - Saturday September 19th, 11:15 Local, 09:15 UTC, 05:15 ET, 19:15 AEST - 55 Minutes
  • RACE START - Saturday September 19th, 14:30 Local, 12:30 UTC, 08:30 ET, 22:30 AEST

The Track

The Circuit de la Sarthe covers 13.6 kilometres of the French country side. It combines the permanent race components of the Ford Chicanes, the pit straight, under the Dunlop Bridge and through to Tertre Rouge as well as the normal everyday roads of the Mulsanne straight through to Indianapolis and Arnage. The track has gone through many iterations over the years; originally, the cars raced into the heart of the city, turning just before the river Sarthe, before hurtling down the 8.6 kilometre straight. In 1932, the circuit removed the journey into the city, and more closely resembled the track we see today. Here’s a video of Mike Hawthorn touring the circuit with a camera and microphone attached in 1956, one year after his involvement in the Le Mans disaster. The addition of the Porsche Curves and the Ford Chicanes in 1972 added an extra dimension to the high speed, fast flowing track. In the late 80’s, the Group C prototype cars would reach over 400km/h, achieving average speeds of almost 250km/h in qualifying for the entire lap. This is an onboard of Derek Bell’s Porsche 956 in 1983, showing the ridiculous speeds on this configuration of the circuit. This configuration remained relatively unchanged right up to 1990, until FIA mandations required that for the circuit to be sanctioned, it must not have a straight longer than 2km. The 6km Mulsanne straight was cut down into three relatively equal length portions by two chicanes, giving the iteration of the circuit used today. Allan McNish takes you on an onboard lap of the current circuit in this video. McNish is one of the gods of the modern prototype era, winning Le Mans 3 times; once with Porsche and twice with Audi. For a more comprehensive focus on the track, John Hindhaugh’s track walk takes you on a 30 minute exploration of the track, with in depth focus on corners like the Dunlop Esses, Tertre Rouge, Mulsanne Corner, and the Ford Chicanes.
Finally, check out the fastest ever lap in the Circuit de la Sarthe: Kamui Kobayashi's 3:14.791 in 2017 Q2
The Dunlop Bridge
The iconic Dunlop Bridge has been a part of the Le Mans track since 1932, making it the oldest Dunlop Bridge at any track. This part of the track requires a good launch out of the first chicane before cresting the brow of the hill, and plunging through the esses out onto the Mulsanne straight. As the LMP cars are much more maneuverable, caution must be taken passing the slower GT traffic, as Allan McNish discovered in 2011.
Tertre Rouge
Tertre Rouge is the corner that launches the cars onto the long Mulsanne straight. Maintaining momentum through this corner as it opens on exit is imperative to ensure maximum straight line speed heading down the first part of the Mulsanne. The undulation in the road makes for fantastic viewing at night, with some magic images of the Porsches throwing up sparks on the exit in 2014. Finally, this was the location of Allan Simonsen’s fatal crash in mixed conditions in the 2013 Le Mans. The Danish flags will fly at the corner in his memory.
Mulsanne Corner
After the incredibly long Mulsanne straight, the Mulsanne corner nowadays features a subtle right hand kink before the tight 90 degree turn. Here, the cars decelerate from 340 km/h down to below 100 km/h, resulting in a brilliant opportunity to overtake. Again, care must be taken overtaking slower traffic; unaware drivers have caught out faster cars attempting to pass through the kink, such as Anthony Davidson’s spectacular crash in 2012 resulting in a broken vertebra for Davidson.
Indianapolis and Arnage
The Indanapolis and Arnage complex is one of the most committed areas of the track. Hurtling down the hill from the Mulsanne Corner, the road suddenly bends to the right, a corner which only the bravest prototype drivers take flat out, followed by a beautifully cambered open left hander taken in third gear. A short sprint leads the cars into Arnage, the slowest point on the track. The tight right hander was the scene of heartbreak for Toyota in 2014 when the leading #7 broke down and had to be retired after an FIA sensor melted and shut off the electronics. Kazuki Nakajiima was unable to make it to the pits, leaving him stranded on the circuit.
The Porsche Curves
High speed and with barely any run off, the Porsche Curves is the most committed part of the lap. Getting caught behind GT traffic in this section can mean losing phenomenal amounts of time. This was the site of Loic Duval’s horrific crash in practice for the 2014 event. Keeping momentum through the flowing right-left-right handers that lead into Maison Blanche requires 100% commitment and ultimate precision, with severe punishment for getting it wrong.
The Ford Chicanes
The final chapter in the 13.6km rollercoaster that is Le Mans is the Ford Chicanes. Two tight left-right handers with massive kerbs are all that separates the driver from the finish line. Watching the cars bounce over the kerbs in beautiful slow motion is certainly something to behold, but 24 hours of mistreatment can lead to suspension and steering issues. The drivers have to be attentive until the very end, lest they throw it all away in the last minutes of the race. This year, it’s expected that the LMP1 teams will have to flawlessly navigate the circuit almost 400 times during the 24 hours of racing.

The Classes

The WEC consists of four classes on track at once, resulting in four separate races on track each in their own battle for 24 Hours. The classes are split by car type into Prototype and GT, and then further into Pro and Amateur. Each class has it's own set of regulations, driver requirements, and relevance for the Le Mans event

LMP1 is the top class of Sportscars, and features the fastest prototype closed top race cars. The cars rival F1 cars in terms of performance and lap times, and are capable of lapping the Le Mans circuit in around 3:20. The cars in this class are built specifically for endurance racing, and are limited by both instantaneous and average fuel flow, to put the focus of the class onto development of efficiency. This year, Toyota is the only OEM manufacturer, with 3 privateer teams bringing along three different chassis to take a shot at the overall victory. As Toyota's car is a hybrid, and the privateer cars are not, the different types of car have to be balanced by a process called "Equivalence of Technology", or EoT. For more information on how EoT is calculated and applied, check out this article on the Le Mans website For those who have followed the WEC all season, it is important to note that the Success Handicap that has been applied throughout the season will not be applied at Le Mans. Thus, we will see the full unshackled ability of the cars in LMP1 for the 24 Hours!

The second prototype class is LMP2, and provides an excellent platform for endurance racing on a budget. The LMP2 class features a spec drivetrain and gearbox, using a Gibson V8 producing 600hp, and a selection of three chassis to choose from (well four really but we don't talk about Riley). This ensures that the competition in the class is very tight, and often comes down to the drivers and the teams performance instead of just having the best car. The LMP2 category is only just a step down from LMP1, with rivalling top speeds, and can lap in around 3:30.
LMP2 is the first class that must feature amateur rated drivers. The Amateurs must drive for a minimum of 6 hours in the car over the course of the race. This means that there's an element of strategy of when to use your amateur driver throughout the race, as the amateur driver is generally slower than the Pros. The pro drivers in this class range from up and coming talent, former F1 drivers, and some of the best sportscar pilots in the world, and with 24 cars in this class, LMP2 is sure to be a hotbed of action over the 24 hours.

GT class cars are cars that are derived from production models, and feature some of the most iconic cars and brands battling it out at the top of the field. The GTE cars are on the border of aero dependency, and can lap Le Mans in around 3:50
This year, the GTE-Pro entry has been hit significantly by the developments of the Covid-19 situation. Factory backed teams from America, including the Corvette C8.R and the Core-run Porsche GTLM program, have been unable to make the trip, resulting in a three-way tussle between Porsche, Ferrari, and Aston Martin for this year's event. The GTE-Pro class features all-pro line ups, resulting in some of the best drivers in the world racing in some of the most prestigious hardware that racing has to offer.
The GT classes feature a range of different cars and configurations, and to equalise each of these against each other, the class goes through a process called 'Balance of Performance' or BoP. The organisers can adjust each individual car's weight, fuel tank, air restrictor, turbo boost pressures, and aero performance to alter performance levels to enable the different cars to race competitively. This can sometimes be contentious as every team will feel hard done by, but it is a necessary evil to having the variety of cars on the grid.

Like GTE-Pro, GTE-Am features the same GT cars derived from production models. There are two major differences between GTE-Pro and GTE-Am. Firstly, as the name implies, GTE-Am must feature two amateur drivers per car; one rated Silver and the other rated Bronze. Additionally, the specifications of GTE-Am cars are a season behind the GTE-Pro category. While this had a major affect last year, this year all teams have been able to upgrade to the most recent spec machinery released by the manufacturer teams.
With two amateur drivers, all of a sudden the strategy considerations multiply. Additionally, the variety of Pro drivers in this class range from ex-F1 talent to brand new drivers to the Endurance Sportscar scene. While GTE-Am might be the class focussed on the least over the course of the race, the stories that come from this class are phenomenal, and it's well worth following.

Coming from /Formula1? The guys from F1-Editorial put together this info piece so you can see where drivers you might know stack up in this year's field!

The Legends

Part of the allure of the Le Mans 24 Hours is the history, and the legends steeped in history over the course of it's 85 previous editions. The race has had many headline battles in it's history - periods of time where two or three teams went toe to toe for years, with the drivers, cars, and brands embroiled in these battles given the chance to elevate themselves above the rest, and show their prowess.
Last year at /WEC, we’ve taken our normal Le Mans Legends celebrations to a new level; each week, members of the community have been writing reviews on some of the closest, most fascinating finishes in Le Mans history! You can check out these reports below!
Bonus CookieMonsterFL Write-Ups
This year, we've invited you to celebrate some of the Privateer teams that have made this event special. So far we've featured ByKolles, Pescarolo, and Joest, with another one still to come!
The early races were dominated by the Bentley company in their Speed 6, who won 5 of the first 7 races. Cars were separated into classes by their engine displacement, and the overall winner was based on distance covered. If two cars had finished with the same number of laps, the car with the smaller displacement was declared the winner. The race wasn't run during the second world war, and comparatively very little information is available on the stories of the early days of Le Mans.
After the second world war, teams such as Jaguar, Ferrari, Mercedes, and Aston Martin became the dominant teams. This era featured the legendary Jaguar D type, the Mercedes Benz 300 SLR, the Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa, and the Aston Martin DBR1. Jaguar won 5 times between 1951 and 1957, followed by an era of Ferrari dominance. Drivers such as Mike Hawthorn, Stirling Moss, Juan Manuel Fangio, and John Fitch became household names as Le Mans became a battle between German engineering and British "garagistas".
Ferrari and Ford was the story of the 60's, with Ferrari winning 6 times straight before Ford won four in a row with the GT40 Mk II, taking their first win in 1966. The story of their rivalry is legendary in it's own right - Henry Ford had almost successfully bought out the Ferrari motor company, only to be knocked back by Enzo himself at the 11th hour. In retaliation, Ford planned to hurt Ferrari where it mattered most; on the track. The Ford GT40 was so comprehensively dominant that it won the 1966 edition 21 laps ahead of the next car back - a Porsche 906/6. None of the Ferrari 330P3's finished the race. This battle gave drivers like Bruce Mclaren, Dan Gurney, and Jacky Ickx their first Le Mans victories, and propelled them to the forefront of motorsport stardom at the height of motorsport's popularity.
The 1970's saw the dawn of Porsche, with the 917k taking the brand's first win in 1970, with the same car winning the following year in the hands of Helmut Marko (yes, that Helmut Marko). It would be 5 years before Porsche would win again, with Maatra taking 3 victories in the interim, each at the hands of Henri Pescarolo. Porsche returned with the 936 and the 956/962c dominating the race for the next 20 years. In fact, from 1970, Porsche won 12 times in 18 events, including 7 in a row, and they miiight have been a bit cheeky about it. Amongst these 12 wins, there were 4 for both Jacky Ickx and Derek Bell, and two for IMSA legend Hurley Haywood, as well as the first win for the Joest team in 1984. This era coincided with the introduction, and subsequent destruction of the Group C sportscar formula, widely regarded as the best Sportscar championship regulations of all time. Porsche’s dominance was eventually ended by Jaguar in the XJR-9LM, at the height of Group C’s magic. Ickx's 6 wins at this stage had earned him the nickname 'Mister Le Mans', a fitting title for one of the best drivers in the world at the time.
GT cars became a force to be reckoned with at the end of the Group C era, with classes being split into LMGTP and LMP. McLaren and Porsche had wins in GTP cars, in the F1 GTR and the 911 GT1 respectively, while Porsche, BMW and Peugeot scored LMP wins. 1997 saw the first win for Tom Kristensen, while the following year Allan McNish took his first victory, starting their journeys into the legend books of Le Mans.
The 2000’s ushered in the era of Audi, with all 13 of their wins coming since the turn of the century. GTP was disbanded due to safety issues, being replaced by GT1 and GT2. Audi picked up wins in the R8, the R10, the R15, and the R18, often dominating the might of the Peugeot 908. Audi's dominance elevated not only their drivers to legend status, but also their team managers, car designers, and race engineers. People like Reinhold Joest (team manager), Dr Wolfgang Ullrich (Audisport director), Ulrich Baretzky (engine designer), Leena Gade, Howden Haynes (race engineers) behind the wall and Allan McNish, Tom Kristensen, Rinaldo Capello, Marcel Fassler, Andre Lotterer and Benoit Treluyer have become household names in the sport not only for their wins, but their longevity and domination. Audi's dominance was only broken by a win for Bentley in 2003, running basically an Audi under a British racing green skin, and Peugeot in 2009, before being ended for good by Porsche in 2015.
Between 2015 and 2017, Porsche added to their victories, now holding a record 19 overall victories at the Circuit de la Sarthe. Audi trail with 13, with Ferrari, Jaguar and Bentley holding the next three positions. Toyota finally took their first overall victory in 2018, and backed it up with another last year. Tom Kristensen is has the most victories at Le Mans, with 9 overall victories over his career with Porsche, Audi and Bentley, inheriting the title of Mr Le Mans.

Videos and Documentaries

Entry List

The 2020 Andy Blackmore's Spotter Guide - Proudly supported by /WEC

This year, /WEC is again sponsoring Andy Blackmore's Le Mans spotters guide. Andy Blackmore has been a long time servant to Le Mans and his spotters guides are second to none in terms of information, presentation, and accuracy. We here at /WEC are proud to feature on the spotters guide, and implore you to show your support by following him @andyblackmore and supporting @AERO_Paint on Twitter!

Endurance Chat

/WEC's podcast, Endurance Chat, will have three episodes in the lead up to Le Mans, as well as a Pre-Pre-Race show in the hours before the event. Watch this space for updates!

Streaming and Television

Martin Haven confirmed that Trackside Broadcast will start 15 minutes before FP2 - No broadcast of FP1 at this stage

  • Official stream OUTSIDE US ONLY - The Le Mans package gives you access to all WEC sessions (Qualifying, Warm Up and the Race) with a choice of on boards, cross platform compatibility, and up to 5 devices connected at once. Additionally, replays of the event are free after the event. Official comms headed by Martin Haven, Allan McNish and Graham Goodwin, who in my personal opinion properly nail the tone of the event. Has been known to get overloaded and crash however
  • Eurosport will be broadcasting the full Le Mans event, including Practice, all Qualifying sessions, Warm Up, and the Race, in most markets with local commentary. Note - In the past, there have been complaints levelled at the tone of the English comms, and bias in commentary in various regions. Luckily, Eurosport does provide a commentary free feed too! Check your local broadcaster for times/streaming
  • Radio Le Mans will be streaming live radio for every session
For American audiences, unfortunately the Official stream is geoblocked for your area. You can catch the race on Motortrend and on the Discovery Velocity channel
Any further updates on TV or Streaming distribution will be added as they are released!

Social Media

If you're looking for more interaction, you can find most of the teams, drivers and commentators on Twitter, giving you instant interaction with those in the midst of the event. We have a twitter list for this year's event thanks to victorycb!

Live timing

Be sure to join the discord for alternate timing solutions!

Get Involved!

By far the most fun you can have watching an endurance race is watching it with the official /WEC Discord! It's a lot of fun and a really great atmosphere to watch the race in!
If you want to have a go at picking who you think will be winning in each class, jump into mwclarkson's Fantasy Endurance Contest! It's free to enter, and if you win, you'll get the satisfaction and achievement of being right!
If there's anything you'd like us to add, or need clarification on, please comment below and we'll add it in!`
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2020.09.06 10:08 SomeCruzDude The WSL and Championship kick off this weekend, so here's a brief summary of all the PL's women's teams. Whether your club is one of the 13/20 in the top 2 divisions or far below, they're here!

This weekend the top two women's leagues in England, the Women's Super League and Women's Championship kick off. To mark that occasion I decided to do a mini write up on every PL's related women's club for those of you that are curious about your own club's women's team or all the clubs' sides.
After following Spurs for about a decade, I decided a few years ago that I didn't have enough whiplash from near successes and wanted to add their women's team to the mix, which at the time was in the 3rd division. The ensuing years have been mostly upds as they've gone from the (mostly) amateur game (National League), to the semi-pro/pro 2nd division (Championship), to finally their first ever season in the fully professional Women's Super League.
While the results were great, it also has been really rewarding to get to know names that were servants to the club that they and I love but fans likely will never had heard of or will hear of. Case in point is the recently retired Jenna Schicalli who was born and raised a Spurs fan, recently ending her last stint with the team from 2009-2020 in which she helped captain the team through multiple promotions, including the two I just spoke of. It's interesting to hear the perspective of players that are playing simply for the love of the game and club, since often times they have to have another job to supplement the little income they get outside of the top flight.
Following the ups and downs of the women's team has been rewarding for me, getting at times either double the joy from victories across the club or double the pain from defeats on the same weekend. But either way it was more football for me, and that's part of why I love the women's game. Maybe you will be in the same place as me and maybe not, but I figured at the very least this sort of post may pique your curiosity to see where your women's side sits in the pyramid in comparison to the men's side in the PL. Are they also in the top flight? Not far out in the Championship? Or down in the regional leagues?
I'll be trying to provide a brief summary for where each team is at, and due to a lack of info and familiarity some teams (especially the lower league teams) won't have the most info but I'll do my best!
It should be noted that the 3rd tier and below had their seasons cancelled with no pro/rel, whereas the WSL and Championship had their seasons canceled but PPG was still used to decide pro/rel and Champions League places. So that's why some teams were promoted and relegated while other first or last finishers didn't move at all.

FAQ

What competitions are going on this season?

  • Leagues - Women's Super League, Championship, and the National League, and all the way down to the regional tiers (5th-7th)
  • FA Cup(s) (19/20 & 20/21) The 19/20 FA Cup was postponed during the quarterfinals in March, they'll be played out in the next couple of months while the early stages of the 20/21 FA Cup are also being played
  • League Cup - The primary League Cup in the vein of the men's competition and is competed between teams in the professional and semi-professional leagues, the Women's Super League and Championship respectively. The national and regional leagues below also have their own similar competitions going, much like the men's game.
  • Champions League - Chelsea and Manchester City will be competing from the Round of 32 onward this season. Note that the format of the women's CL will be changing next season to more closely align with the men's competition, and England will have 3 spots in the competition as opposed to the current 2.

How can I watch the leagues? (Inside and outside the UK)

If you're in the UK WSL matches will be broadcast on BT Sport and BBC iPlayeRed Button. The rest will be free to view with an account on the FA Player website. Currently only one Championship match a week will be streamed, though all WSL and Championship matches will be available to be viewed on demand in the FA Player website.
Outside the UK, the answer is similar to the answer I just provided, substituting BT Sport and BBC for other TV broadcasters in select nations. If your country/region doesn't have a TV deal, all WSL matches and will be available live for free on the FA Player!
When it comes to the lower leagues, some teams have streamed matches but it's largely absent from the women's game outside of the top league(s).

Where can I talk about the leagues?

/FAWSL has been restarted and is gaining traction as a place to discuss all the relevant clubs and matches. There are women's club subreddits for some of the large teams, but it seems that most PL club subreddits are open to women's team news being posted there as well.

Arsenal

Current League: WSL (1st tier) 19/20 finish: 3rd/12
As much as I hate to say it, one of the titans of the English women's game. Arsenal are ever-present around the CL spots (fitting for the only English team to actually win the competition), though last year they finished just outside a CL spot in 3rd place on PPG as the WSL season was decided early. They'll only have domestic competition to focus on this year, and that may end up being to their benefit. Having arguably the best women's player in the world in Vivianne Miedema doesn't hurt either, with the 24 year old still improving year after year.
Opening fixture: Arsenal vs Reading - 6th September 12:30 BST – Watch live for free on the FA Player
FA Cup 2019/20: Arsenal vs Tottenham Hotspur on 26th/27th September - Watch live on BBC iPlayer and BBC Red Button

Aston Villa

Current League: WSL 19/20 finish: 1st/11 in Championship on PPG (Promoted)
The lone promoted side in this year's league, taking Liverpool's place. Villa will be aiming to stay in the WSL and will likely achieve that with (relative) ease, looking at the improvement from this off-season on their already strong Championship squad.
Opening fixtures: Aston Villa 0-2 Manchester City - 5th September 14:30 BST - Watch live on BT Sport (UK), or free on the FA Player (International)
Reading vs Aston Villa - 13th September 14:00 BST - Watch live for free on the FA Player

Brighton & Hove Albion

Current League: WSL 19/20 finish: 9th/12 in WSL; 19/20 FA Cup quarterfinal vs Birmingham City on 26/27 September
Brighton are still relatively fresh blood in the WSL, only joining in 18/19 as one of two promotions during the restructuring of the top two leagues. They finished 9th/11 in their first season after promotion from WSL 2 (now Championship) and last season didn't get a chance to prove they had improved, finishing 9th/12. They likely don't have anything to fear in regards to relegation, with their seasoned squad having a lot of professional experience by now, but with how other teams around them have been improving you likely won't see them climb much higher up the table.
Opening fixture: Brighton & Hove Albion vs Birmingham City - 6th September 14:00 BST - Watch live for free on the FA Player*
FA Cup 2019/20: Brighton & Hove Albion vs Birmingham City - 26th/27th September

Burnley

Current League: FA Women's National League North (Premier Division) [3rd tier] 19/20 finish: 5th/12
Following back to back promotions from the 5th tier in 17/18 and 4th tier in 18/19, Burnely found themselves playing just a single step below the semi-professional game. They finished a surprising 5th with a few matches in hand on some of the teams above them, but there likely would have been no catching league leaders Sunderland who had yet to lose a match in 14 played.
Opening fixture: Sunderland AFC Ladies v Burnley FC Women on Sunday 20th September

Chelsea

Current League: WSL 19/20 finish: 1st/12 in WSL (Champs), 19/20 League Cup Champs
One of the standard bearers for women's club football in England, Chelsea won their first league title since 2017-18 (not the longest wait, eh?) Chelsea will be aiming to once again win the league as well as to reach their first ever Champions League final. Chelsea have reached the semi-finals in their last two attempts (17/18 & 18/19) but were knocked out by Wolfsburg and Lyon, two of the most dominant sides in women's Champions League history.
Adding Danish women's national team captain Pernille Harder this summer for a world record transfer fee in women's football probably will help give them a slight boost in the league and CL. That's in addition to Sam Kerr who Chelsea added in the second half of 2019. The Australian at age 26 is already the all time leading scorer in two leagues, NWSL in the United States and W-League in Australia.
Opening fixture: Manchester United vs Chelsea - 6th September 14:30 BST - Watch live on BT Sport (UK), or free on the FA Player* (International)
FA Cup 2019/20: Everton vs Chelsea on 26th/27th September

Crystal Palace

Current League: Championship 19/20 finish: 9th/11
Palace joined the WSL 2 (now Championship) in 2018/19 during the restructuring of the 1st and 2nd women's divisions, gaining their spot through an application. They had finished 3rd in their league so they weren't slouches, but they still have yet to break through to midtable of the Championship. They finished 10th/11 in their first foray in the 2nd division, below all four of the other newly promoted sides including Sheffield United who were actually a division below them in 17/18. They didn't get to prove themselves much better than that in 19/20, only finishing one place higher when the season was cut short this past spring. All that said, they have added players with WSL and Championship experience and should hopefully finish at least mid-table in this upcoming Championship season.
Opening fixture: Charlton Athletic vs Crystal Palace - 6th September 14:00 BST - Watch replay for free on the FA Player*

Everton

Current League: WSL 19/20 finish: 6th/12; 19/20 FA Cup quarter-final vs Chelsea 26/27 September
Everton finished midtable last year but their 10 additions between spring (3) and summer (7) may have them either on the outskirts of a Champions League spot if everything clicks or stalling or falling in the table due to needing time to click. French forward Valerie Gauvin is likely the new addition to watch in their squad.
Opening fixture: Bristol City vs Everton - 6th September 14:00 BST - Watch live for free on the FA Player*
FA Cup 2019/20: Everton vs Chelsea on 26th/27th September

Fulham

Current League: London and South East Women's Regional Football League (5th) 19/20 finish: 5th/10
The lowest division representative in this list, Fulham have a storied history, one with the highest of highs and lowest of lows. Highlights include in 2000 they were the first full-time professional women's side and a 2003 FA Cup victory. Sadly the team was dissolved twice in four years (2006 & 2010), not reforming until 2014 as Fulham FC Foundation ladies. Fulham have been in the 5th tier since 14/15, winning promotion from the 6th tier the previous season. They finished a surprising 4th/10 in their first season in the top flight, but haven't been able to finish past 5th, routinely in the lower half of the table though not needing to stave off relegation. The team has been receiving more and more attention and from the main club notably becoming Fulham FC Women in 2018 with reinvestment in the team, and that may lead to improved results this upcoming season and hopefully promotion in the near future.
Opening fixture: Denham United vs Fulham FC on Sunday 13th September

Leeds United

Current league: National League Division One North (4th tier) 19/20 finish: 2nd/12
Leeds United were among the top sides fighting for promotion, the closest challenger to Barnsley when the season was called off. It is expected that they should be able to repeat that effort this season. The club has yet to reach the semi-professional game, and finally exiting the 4th tier would be a huge step in achieving progress to that goal.
Opening fixture: Norton & Stockton vs Leeds United on 20 September

Leicester City

Current League: Championship 19/20 finish: 6th
Leicester City was brought into the fold of the main club, going from a partner to being integrated as one of only a few fully professional clubs in the Championship. They'll likely be fighting with Liverpool and Sheffield for the one promotion spot, and one shouldn't doubt their capabilities in winning it all.
They're the lone 2nd division team left in the 2019/20 FA Cup, though with just about the toughest draw, facing the defending champs Manchester City.
Opening fixture: Leicester City vs Blackburn Rovers - Sunday 6th September 14:00 BST - Watch replay for free on the FA Player*
FA Cup 2019/20: Leicester City vs Manchester City 26th/27th September

Liverpool

Current League: Championship 19/20 finish: 12th/12 in WSL (Relegated)
Lot of criticism has been swirling around this team, some just and unjust, but even the main club could understand that the men winning the league and the women being relegated in the same season wasn't the best look. Sure, the fact that they went on PPG in a season that didn't complete didn't give them a fair shake, but they'll have to prove this season that they truly belong in the WSL. In Leicester City and Sheffield United they have very strong opponents in the fight for promotion.
Opening fixture: Liverpool vs Durham on Sunday 6th September 14:00 BST - Watch for free on the FA Player*

Manchester City

Current League: WSL 19/20 finish: 2nd/12 in WSL
Perennial 2nd place finishers in recent years, outside of a league win in 2016, City have finished 2nd every season since 2015. Losing this past season on PPG has to be one of the more bitter pills to swallow, but after a 2-0 loss to Chelsea for the newly revived Women's Community Shield this past weekend, City will be hoping that their new recruits including Sam Mewis and Rose Lavelle, 2019 World Cup winners with the United States, will help push them past the hurdle of 2nd place as well as give them a boost in Europe. Similar to Chelsea, they have yet to reach a Champions League final, only making it to the Round of 32 and Round of 16 in the last two seasons, getting knocked out by Atletico Madrid both years.
Opening fixture: Aston Villa 0-2 Manchester City - 5th September 14:30 BST - Watch live on BT Sport (UK), or free on the FA Player* (International)
Manchester City vs Brighton & Hove Albion - 13th September 14:00 BST - Watch live for free on the FA Player*
FA Cup 2019/20: Leicester City vs Manchester City 26th/27th September

Manchester United

Current League: WSL 19/20 finish: 4th/12 in WSL on PPG
The best of the rest outside of the top 3, which is pretty good for a team in only its 3rd season of existence. They easily won the Championship in 18/19 with only 1 draw and 1 loss and their first year in the WSL saw them continue their impressive form. This year they're aiming to challenge for the Champions League, though it should be said that last year there was a clear gap between them and a CL spot with 4th placed United getting 1.64 PPG while Arsenal in 3rd had 2.40.
The Red Devils hope that the additions of World Champions Tobin Heath and Cristen Press will propel them to a Champions League spot this year, finally breaking into the top 3 of the WSL after a long wait of...3 years.
Opening fixture: Manchester United vs Chelsea - 6th September 14:30 BST - Watch live on BT Sport (UK), or free on the FA Player* (International)

Newcastle United

Current League: National League Division One North (4th tier) 19/20 finish: 6th/12
Newcastle had been in the 3rd division as recently as 2016/17 when they were relegated after gaining only 7 points in 20 matches. They have yet to truly challenge for promotion back into the 3rd tier, finishing 5th, 9th, and 6th in their seasons after relegation. Most recently the team entered into a partnership with Northumbria University to provide Strength and Conditioning, Performance Analysis and Physiotherapy as well as management of the club itself.
Opening fixture: Durham Cestria vs Newcastle United on Sunday 20th September

Sheffield United

Current League: Championship 19/20 finish: 2nd/11
Sheffield finished under Aston Villa in PPG and it's a wonder where the two teams would have finished in a full season. That said, their solid base has been improved upon roster wise, but the loss of manager Carla Ward to WSL side Birmingham City may be the largest challenge to the club. They took their time in replacing her, and it'll be up to former Liverpool Women and Newcastle United U23 manager Neil Redfearn to keep up with Leicester and Liverpool.
Opening fixture: London City Lionesses vs Sheffield United - Sunday 6th September 14:00 BST - Watch replay for free on the FA Player*

Southampton

Current League: National League Division One South West (4th tier) 19/20 finish: 1st/11
After back to back promotions from the 6th tier in 17/18 and 5th tier in 18/19, Southampton FC Women were looking to establish themselves in their first season in the 4th division. They ended up fighting with similarly named Southampton Women's F.C. for promotion to the 3rd tier, but with only 11 and 12 matches played respectively, it's a wonder who would have been the side to clinch the league. Southampton's official women's side should expect to be the favorites going into this season, but time will tell for how things add up.
Opening fixture: Poole Town vs Southampton FC on Sunday 20th September

Tottenham Hotspur

Current League: WSL 19/20 finish: 7th/12;
Spurs are a contrast to Manchester United, both being promoted to the WSL the same year but under quite different circumstances. After years in the lower tiers Spurs were able to get a bit more investment to add to some of their longterm players. After each subsequent season they've retooled their squad with each season, exemplified by the fact that Josie Green is the only remaining player on the squad that played with the team in the amateur game. Speaking of that time, Spurs' results truly bloomed in 2016/17 when they won four trophies, including promotion to the 2nd division. They finished 7th place in 2017/18, their first semi-professional season, the highlight being securing their first ever victories over top flight sides in cup competitions. The 2018/19 saw them rocket up the table, finishing 2nd and in a promotion spot under the juggernauts of Manchester United. Their first WSL season followed a similar pattern to their first WSL 2 season, once again finishing 7th and they're still waiting to play in their furthest advanced round in the FA Cup, a quarter-final with Arsenal.
I'm dreading Spurs' match vs Arsenal in the FA Cup later this month, but I am happy when I look back on prior results and see all the progress that has been made. Spurs had an infamous 10-0 loss to Arsenal in the Round of 16 back in 2016/17 when they were an amateur side, but when facing them in league play this past season 2 1/2 years later, they only lost 2-0. They're still looking for that first win over a top half side in the WSL, but with a season of WSL under the squad and management's belt, they should be able to achieve an upper mid-table finish and hopefully be an increasingly challenging fixture against the top sides.
Opening fixture: Tottenham Hotspur vs West Ham - 6th September 14:00 BST - Watch live for free on the FA Player*
FA Cup 2019/20: Arsenal vs Tottenham Hotspur on 26th/27th September - Watch live on BBC iPlayer and BBC Red Button

West Bromwich Albion

Current League: National League Premier Division North (3rd tier) 19/20 finish: 7th/12
West Brom have had a brief yo-yo situation as of late, finishing 6th in their division 16/17, relegated from the 3rd tier in 17/18, winning back promotion 18/19, and seeming to settle back into midtable in 19/20. At this point it seems they should be focusing on stability and remaining in the 3rd division.
Opening fixture: West Bromwich Albion vs Nottingham Forest on Sunday 20th September

West Ham United

Current league: WSL 19/20 finish: 8th/12
West Ham are another team that's relatively new to the WSL, making the surprising jump from the 3rd tier amateur game all the way to the professional game in 2018/19, bypassing the Championship when the FA was restructuring the leagues. They settled right into midtable in their first WSL season with a 7th place finish, the highlight being a surprising FA Cup final appearance in what ended up a 3-0 loss to Man City. The next season saw them stay in just about the same place, finishing 8th on PPG. As the team has brought in more players on a permanent or temporary loan basis, West Ham will be looking to finish in the upper midtable and challenge fellow midtable sides as well as the CL contenders more evenly.
Opening fixture: Tottenham Hotspur vs West Ham - Sunday 6th September 14:00 BST - Watch live for free on the FA Player*

Wolverhampton Wanderers

Current League: National League Division One Midlands (4th tier) 19/20 finish: 1st/12
One of the victims of the lower leagues getting cancelled with no pro/rel, Wolverhampton were running away with their league on 14 wins, 1 loss, and an incredible +73 goal differntial when the season was cancelled. Wolves will hope to repeat their dominance but this time with a complete season and the reward of promotion to the 3rd tier, just a league below the Championship.
Opening fixture: Leafield Athletic vs Wolverhampton Wanderers on Sunday 20th September
Hope that was interesting to folks, let me know if I got anything wrong or you have any questions. There will be match threads on /FAWSL for some of the matches today, hope you join in on the discussion if your team is playing!
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2020.08.30 09:53 sardarbhagat Fifty people who have affected Hindus and Hinduism in a negative way – Francois Gautier

In a recently posted article on François Gautier’s website, he lists the names of 50 people who can be described as enemies of Hindus and Hinduism. He says that he created the list, which is incomplete, without malice aforethought.
Here is the list, 50 Biggest Enemies of Hindus (Dead or Alive), including the reasons he gives to justify his choice of enemies — Editor
Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj, who along with a few hundred men, stood his ground against the most powerful emperor of his times, has practically no place in Indian history books and is often described as a petty chieftain or even a plunderer. So is Maharana Pratap, the only Rajput who fought against the Mughals and actually defeated Akbar in Haldighati.
Hindus tend to merge and melt wherever they live—and in the process, lose some of their identities and togetherness. And finally the most deadly and vicious intellectuals that we have reviewed above, are Hindus most of them. They are the ones that should be targeted, in a non-violent but firm manner. – Francois Gautier, 13 June 2016. The list has been edited by a staff writer at Newsgram and again by the editor of Bharata Bharati. See the original here.
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2020.08.26 21:31 Evil_food_eater Help me type my friend, MBTI masters!

I'm trying to type my friend and I'd like some feedback to be more sure of her functions. She's 18 years old and is graduating in psychology, here's the questions I asked her trying to figure out her type. What do you say her types and functions are?
1) What do you yearn for in life? Why?
A stable life, because of the comfort and security it brings.
2) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.
In my childhood, before entering school, I didn't have many worries and felt extremely comfortable where I was to act like myself.
3) What makes you feel inferior?
Being ignored or feeling like I don't belong a given group despite my efforts to belong, being detached from a place and not being able to socialize.
4) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.)
My emotions always speak very high, but when I have to make decisions I always try to calm down and think better and more rationally to decide.
5) When working on a project what is normally your emphasis? Do you like to have control of the outcome?
I like when I can have control of the outcome, but I never feel confident enough for it and I end up stressing myself too much when it looks like all of the works is for me, so I'm glad to make just a specific part.
6) When you want to learn something new, what feels more natural for you? (Are you more prone to be hands on, to theorize, to memorize, etc)
I think hands on, because keeping myself moving to do things makes me focus more to think and gives me less time to get distracted with other things.
7) How organized do you to think of yourself as?
I'm generally very organized, I put something in place and takes long to the enviroment become a mess, but I have to organize at my own pace, I hate when people try to force me to do things. So, I take a long time to organize, but after a time I organize anyway.
8) How do you judge new ideas? You try to understand the principles behind it to see if they make sense or do you look for information that supports it?
I generally seek information to see if it makes sense or just to comprehend the subject better.
9) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions?
I believe many things I say I do by impulse, I believe that's why people think I'm strange, I can say some random thing out of nowhere, sometimes just to feel part of the conversation, or it is just automatic. I like to talk in groups because it is good to involve everyone in the topic but I like one-on-one conversations too because there are specific things I only talk with that person.
10) How do you act when you're stressed out?
I get angry and isolate and don't want to talk with anyone, I can even cry out of rage.
11) And when a situation makes you stressed out, not a person?
I prefer having someone there for me to vent out or just that I can hug and probably cry.
12) What makes you dislike the personalities of some people?
People who want to feel superior than others and feel like they have the right to treat others badly just to strengthen their ego.
13) How do your friends perceive you? What is wrong about their perception? ? What would your friends never say about your personality ?
As someone happy, energized and strange. But I don't think I'm that much energized, I just feel euphoric in the presence of people I like and have intimacy. What people never say about me is that I'm actually very jealous.
14) What kind of things do pay the least attention to in your life
I don't pay much attention to my surroundings, my mother says I'm very ditzy and distracted.
15) Describe a time when you felt very stressed.
I yelled very much, strongly shut the door e cried until I could barely breath.
16) How would you describe your decision making process? What you value the most when deciding? Why do you value it?
When making important decisions, I always want to prioritize the more rational one, even though I am drawn to my emotional side and believe it is important too. Making the most rational decision has to be the final veredict, I value more this kind of decision because I believe decisions based on emotion would be impulsive, with more chances to go wrong.
17) What is rational to you? Or a rational decision making process? Do you follow a method or group of steps to reach the best decision?
Something well planned, that was well analyzed until I have a concrete answer. However, despite it all, analyzing as whole, I am the type who is more impulsive when I act, I can even analyze for a brief time, but not always it is for sure, so I am more someone who breathes deeply and go to see how things go.
18) How do you feel about change?
I don't like it, I get a little nervous with change, but I try my best to be positive and think of the good possibilities and experience that could bring to me.
19) What are your psychological defense mechanisms?
Fantasy, I dream and imagine things that could happen or just imagine a totally different reality. And regression, like acting less mature, to a childish behavior.
20) How do you face this immaturity? Do you think it is against your personal beliefs? Or that it is somehow harmful to your relationships but you do it anyway?
It goes against my personal beliefs and I do believe it is a little harmful to my relationships, that's why I try to control this side of me as much as I can, in reality, only my parents saw me acting this way, so it's more of an intimacy thing. I tend to keep to myself when I'm like this.
21) What do you think are your biggest weaknesses?
I am sometimes too sensible to what other people might think of me, even though I try to convince myself I don't care, receiving negative feedback even from people I don't know makes me sad. Many times I wonder what other people think of me. Or when a friend is acting differently, I get paranoid thinking I did something wrong.
22) Considering the areas in your life you're not good at, how would be your ideal partner to complete it? What traits this person would have?
Considering this, someone smart, not shy, who likes sports or exercise and funny.
23) What made you into psychology?
It started when my friends said I would be a good psychologist because I always give good advice. I researched about psychology and fell in love with the job, I always wanted to work with something I could use to help people. In summary, it is something I found to help people somehow.
24) Why do you want to help people?
It's wonderful the sensation of helping someone, I feel like somehow, as little as I can do, I could make a difference in someone's life.
25) What kind of activities do you prefer?
Editing, DIY and reading. Editing and DIY make me look for my creative side and reading stimulates my imagination to unimaginable places.
26) If you had to take leadership, what would you do? What would you take in consideration?
I would try to separare tasks in a way that everyone feel comfortable.
27) What's your opinion about the past?
I can be something good or bad. It brings good memories, but at the same time bring back that awful situation in 2009, and you can't do nothing about it. I'm somewhat attracted to nostalgia.
28) What's your opinion about the present?
Something to enjoy.
29) What's your opinion about the future?
Something that can be scary, at the same time it can bring great opportunities.
30) What's your learning style?
Manually I learn a lot, seeing and making summaries helps me too.
31) How you are when you're at your best?
I'm very bright and talk a lot, I scream, jump and act like an idiot. I feel really good about myself, a little more confident. I become more willing to talk with people.
32) How you are when you're at your worst?
I feel terrible with myself, I can vent out with someone I trust, but I prefer being away and quiet, without talking to anyone.
33) Do you take long to process your emotions?
No, I'm generally very aware of them.
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2020.08.25 17:06 sauce_murica Green and Gold Part 4 A closer look at United's Finances - Where Has the Money Been Spent?

Manchester United remain a global behemoth. With annual revenues in excess of £627m, [1] United is one of the most valuable clubs on the face of the planet. [1]
As explained in prior G&G installments, in purchasing United, the Glazer family loaded United with heavy debts. [1] The evolution of that debt over time has caused some to question how United are spending their money. For example, by June 2010, those debts had escalated to over £784m. [1] The infamous payment-in-kind loans were quietly repaid in 2010. At that same time, the cash earned from Ronaldo's sale (and the Aon shirt deal) was reportedly used to repay a significant portion of the bonds issued in February 2010. [1] In August 2012, half of the club's IPO proceeds were used for debt reduction, with the other half heading to Glazers. [1]
In total, this led to a bond debt reduction from 509m in June 2010, to 360m as of September 2012 --- resulting in some reputable sources to question whether it was "very possible that debt is virtually eliminated in the next few years." [1]
That has not come to pass. This entry into our Green & Gold Series takes aim at the following question: United remains one of the biggest and most profitable clubs in world football, with some of the largest revenues around. Where has the money gone?
We can do things others can only dream of Are United a Growing Giant or a Shrinking Violet?
In 2018, Ed Woodward famously stated to investors that "[p]laying performance doesn't really have a meaningful impact on what we can do on the commercial side of the business." [1]
There is some truth to this sentiment. From 2009 - 2019, the club's finances have grown significantly. [1] [2] In 2009, the club's commercial revenue was approximately 66 million. By 2019, that figure had more than quadrupled to 275 million. [1] [2] The club likewise benefited from the Premier League's own boon in popularity. From 2009 to 2019, TV revenues grew from 98 million to 241 million. [1] In total, from 2009 - 2019, matchday revenue decreased from 41% of the revenue base, to 19%. One of the results of this can be seen during COVID. While other clubs scrambled to secure finances, furloughing staff and cutting wages, United has to date been able to survive without such significant cuts. [1]
However, if a deeper look is taken into these figures, combined with the relative growth of similarly-situated clubs, cracks begin to appear in Woodward's "results don't matter" assertion. For example, as illustrated here, the club's on-again off-again relationship with the Champion's League has seen a drastic reduction in gate and TV revenue from the infamous Tuesday/Wednesday night matches:
Looking at it differently, as of 2014, by some conservative estimates the cost of missing out on CL football was approximately the cost of one Marouane Fellaini. [1] [2] By 2019, the figure was estimated by the club at around £65million (which figure excludes any potential reduction in the Adidas sponsorship deal). [1] Simply put, the cost of missing out on the sport's elite competition has grown alongside the expansion of the sport itself.
Comparing United's Growth Relative to That of Our Rivals
As recently as 2016, United's revenue growth continued to outpace rivals. [1] [2] [3] However, as years have gone by, that gap has shrunk. From 2017-2018, Liverpool's revenue growth increased nearly 100m, up to £455m from £364m --- taking them from 5th highest to 3rd highest in the league. [1] City's revenues likewise increased from £473m to £500m (2nd highest in the league). [1]
Thus, while United's revenue increased from £515m in 2016 to £590m in 2018, City's increased from £392m to £500m, and Liverpool's increased from £302m to £455m *within the span of two years. [1] [2] This change is highlighted in the following chart:
Club 2016 Revenue 2018 Revenue Growth % Difference
Manchester United £515m £590m £75m 15%
Manchester City £392m £500m £108m 28%
Liverpool £302m £455m £153m 51%
As for commercial revenue alone (an area United is often touted as being the best), the following chart highlights the relative growth of commercial revenue by comparing United to its biggest European counterparts: https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2020/05/25080041/revenue-compares.png
As can be seen, over time United's closest rivals appear to be closing the gap on United's claim as one of, if not the, biggest clubs in world football. With that in mind - let's take a closer look at how United has expanded its global reach since the Glazer takeover in 2005.
A change in the club's branding/commercialization approach
Glazer acquired Manchester United in 2005. At the time of the takeover, "United's income of 171.5 million pounds ($323.8m) for the 2003-04 season kept them top of the list [of richest clubs] for the eighth year in a row." [1] Simply put: Glazer inherited a behemoth at the top of the footballing world.
Upon buying the club, the Glazer contingent reportedly met with staff, and according to a former executive indicated:
“They said, ‘Look, we’ve bought this club because we saw an opportunity.' They never came with, ‘We are fans of the club forever and always will be’. They didn’t claim to be anything other than businessmen and they are very good at what they do.” [1]
The change in tactic upon Glazer arrival allegedly prompted United Chairman Sir Roy Gardner and non-executive directors Ian Much and Jim O'Neill to offer their resignations. [1]
Concerns have been raised since regarding the manner by which the Glazer family extended MUFC's reach / image / branding. Edward Freedman served as managing director of the club's merchandising from 1992-97. [1] During his time at United, he took the club's merchandising operation "from a turnover of £1.2 million in 1992 to £28 million when he left five years later." [1] His work with Tottenham, and then United, was significant enough to merit BBC including him in their documentary titled "The Men That Changed Football." [1]
Asked to speak regarding the Glazers' work with United's continued expansion, Freedman responded:
“They haven’t got a clue what a brand is. It’s a very clever money-making move for them to get those deals. However, I’m sorry to say that, as far as enhancing Manchester United, it doesn’t work.” [1]
Freedman's ire related to the manner in which the club worked to increase the reach of its branding efforts. Freedman's aimed to maintain United's status as a "premium brand" and expand the club's reach by working with select, "high profile" branding partners (a la a Rolex or Porsche). Instead, Freedman's ire was drawn by the club choosing, after he left, to sign onto multiple, "lower-quality" partners. The result of this change in branding strategy can be seen through the years. For example:
Mr. Potato
Tomato Juice
X Men - Apocalypse
Independence Day - Resurgence
Yanmar
Tyres
Chevrolet's Dab University
Others in the footballing world have taken issue with how the increased commercial efforts impacted the players:
One high-profile agent privately complained that the club was “obsessed with commercialism” and “one big money-making machine”. After arriving back in the early hours following a match at West Ham, some stars were required to drive mini kids’ Chevrolets in a sponsored stunt the next day instead of resting. [1]
As for Freedman's thoughts on United's approach to branding expansion, he stated “I really can’t deal with it. We were offered all that long ago and never would accept any of it. Not for all the money in the world. Then, of course, the people who understood the brand left and people came in who saw only the recompense of taking money. But taking money for things that aren’t compatible with your brand will eventually ruin your brand. That’s what I can see them doing. The whole charisma, the whole glory of Manchester United, seems to have gone.” [1]
Freedman was not alone in this concern. In April 2007, Lee Daley (a reported lifelong United supporter), left Saatchi & Saatchi UK to become United's group commercial director. [1] He resigned four months later, with one source claiming he quickly became disillusioned at becoming "a glorified sponsorship sales manager." [1]
And although United's sponsorship efforts have resulted in some successes, including what was, at the time, one of the most profitable kit sponsorship of all time, [1] those successes have not always been well-received:
On the commercial side, the shirt sponsorship struck with Chevrolet, worth £450 million over seven seasons, was a major success. But the deal will not be renewed past 2021 and the person responsible for the deal at General Motors, Joel Ewanick, was dismissed soon after its announcement in 2012, with a spokesman saying he had “failed to meet the expectations the company has of an employee”. [1] [2]
Although some have lauded the Glazers' "industrialization/branding efforts" at United, and other clubs have since copied the process, others are more critical - claiming that United's continued growth and success has resulted more from the continued growth of the Premier League than from Glazer ingenuity.
“The step-change in television income, which came out of nowhere and could not have possibly been projected in a business plan, helped them massively.” In the UK alone, Premier League rights rose from £1.024 billion to £1.706 billion in 2007 and reached £5.136 billion in 2016. [1]
Other sources insist the Glazers did project such an increase, based upon their prior experience with US sports, including their ownership of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. [1]
Not all of the Glazers' initial plans came to fruition. For example, the Glazers reportedly initially planned to increase revenues through higher matchday costs. [1] In 2006 documents, it was outlined that the cost of matchday tickets to attend games at Old Trafford was "undervalued" despite increased pricing, on average, by 12.5% in their first season at the helm. [1] The Glazer plan envisaged a further 36% increase in matchday costs prior to the start of the 2012-13 season. [1] However, that plan was not borne into action, which is one reason matchday revenues have stayed level.
Social Media The Claimed Expansion of the Supporter-Base
Alongside the club's expanding commercial revenues, the club has repeatedly touted its expanding supporter-base to shareholders as a measure of the club's off-field success. In 2013, United claimed to shareholders that it had "659 million" supporters. [1] Stated differently, United claimed that, as of 2010, approximately 1 out of every 10 human beings on the planet supported United.
To reach that figure, United hired Kantar, a market research company, who polled 54,000 adults in 39 countries in the summer of 2011. Most questions were answered online. [1] The figures were then extrapolated to produce a number for each of those countries, with that information then extrapolated to cover the rest of the world, "taking into account such things as the popularity of football in these countries, and whether players born in them had played for Manchester United in the past." Kantar director Richard Brinkman claimed he "would back my figures and argue [they are accurate] to within a 1% margin of error." [1]
The claim drew plenty of detractors. For example, Nick Harris, editor of sports finance website SportingIntelligence.com, noted at the time that:
"In five years, purportedly, Manchester United's following has gone from 333 million, or thereabouts, to 659 million. So almost a doubling of people following Manchester United in five years. This is eyebrow-raising stuff!" [1]
Mr. Harris likewise questioned other Kantar claims, such as the suggestion "that more than 30% of South Korea's total population of 49 million were followers of Manchester United." [1] Especially in light of the live viewing figures for United in the country, at the time, registering less than one million people. [1]
By 2019, United reported to investors claiming to have 1.1 billion fans. [1] Stated differently - from 2013 to 2019, United claimed to have gone from "1 in 10" people worldwide supporting United, to "1 in 7."
The survey for the 2019 report was once more completed by Kantar.
We're Man United and We'll Spend What We Want
Alongside being one of the top earning clubs in world football, United are also one of the top spending clubs. As discussed previously, [1] United are not shrinking violets in the transfer market - with one of the highest net spends over the last decade. [1] [2]
Let's take a closer look at where United, under Glazer ownership, has spent those funds.
Player Signings
United last won the Premier League in 2013 under Sir Alex Ferguson. Since that time, United have spent over £1.015 billion on player purchases. [1] [2] But let's break that down a bit further. First, let's take a look at what that billion has gotten us:
Year Signed Manager Player Position Cost
2020 Solskjaer Bruno Fernandes Mid £49.50m
2019 Solskjaer Harry Maguire CB £78.30m
2019 Solskjaer Aaron Wan Bissaka RB £49.50m
2019 Solskjaer Daniel James RW £15.30m
2018 Mourinho Fred CM £53.10m
2018 Mourinho Dalot RB £19.80m
2018 Mourinho Lee Grant GK £1.53m
2017 Mourinho Romelu Lukaku ST £76.23m
2017 Mourinho Nemanja Matic CM £40.23m
2017 Mourinho Victor Lindelof CB £31.50m
2017 Mourinho Alexis Sanchez ST Mkhitaryan
2016 Mourinho Paul Pogba CM £94.50m
2016 Mourinho Henrikh Mkhitaryan RW £37.80m
2016 Mourinho Eric Bailly CB £34.20m
2015 van Gaal Anthony Martial LW/ST £54.00m
2015 van Gaal Morgan Schneiderlin CM £31.50m
2015 van Gaal Memphis Depay LW £30.60m
2015 van Gaal Matteo Darmian RB £16.20m
2015 van Gaal Bastian Schweinsteiger CM £8.10m
2014 van Gaal Angel di Maria LW £67.50m
2014 van Gaal Luke Shaw LB £33.75m
2014 van Gaal Ander Herrera CM £32.40m
2014 van Gaal Marcos Rojo LB/CB £18.00m
2014 van Gaal Daley Blind LB/CB £15.75m
2014 van Gaal Falcao ST £6.84m (loan fee)
2014 van Gaal Vanja Milinkovic-Savic GK £1.58m
2013 Moyes Juan Mata RW/CM £40.26m
2013 Moyes Marouane Fellaini CM £29.16m
All figures in this thread are taken from Transfermarkt.
Prior to that, from 2005-2012, Sir Alex spent a total of £362.8m. Accordingly, from 2005 to date, under Glazer ownership United has spent £1.3778 billion on player acquisitions.
Player Sales
Year Player Transfer Fee
2005 Phil Neville £4.77m
2005 Kleberson £2.34m
2006 Ruud van Nistelrooy £13.50m
2006 David Jones £1.35m
2006 Jonathan Sepctor £675,000
2006 David Bellion £450,000
2006 Luke Steele £225,000
2007 Gabriel Heinze £10.8m
2007 Giuseppe Rossi £9m
2007 Alan Smith £8.1m 
2007 Kieran Richardson £7.38m
2007 Tim Howard £3.78m
2007 Phil Bardsley £2.7m
2008 Gerard Pique £4.5m
2008 Chris Eagles £1.35m
2008 Mikael Silvestre £855,000
2009 Cristiano Ronaldo £84.60m
2009 Frazier Campbell £3.69m
2009 Manucho £2.48m
2009 Lee Martin £2.03m
2009 Danny Simpson £779,000
2010 Zoran Tosic £8.55m
2010 Ben Foster £6.3m
2011 John O'Shea £4.05m
2011 Gabriel Obertan £3.06m
2011 Mama Diouf £1.62m
2011 Wes Brown £1.35m
2011 Danny Drinkwater £810,000
2011 Darron Gibson £540,000
2011 Jue Dudgeon £86,000
2012 Dimitar Berbatov £4.50m
2012 Ji-sung Park £2.79m
2012 Ritchie De Laet £1.13m
2014 Danny Welbeck £18.00m
2014 Shinji Kagawa £7.20m
2014 Alexander Buttner £4.95m
2014 Wilfried Zaha £3.42m
2014 Chicharito £2.70m (loan fee)
2014 Bebe £2.70m
2014 Michael Keane £2.30m
2014 Patrice Evra £1.71m
2015 Angel di Maria £56.70m
2015 Chicharito £10.80m
2015 Jonny Evans £7.47m
2015 Robin van Persie £5.85m
2015 Nani £5.40m
2015 Rafael £2.88m
2015 Angelo Henriquez £1.50m
2015 Reece James £1.26m
2016 Morgan Schneiderlin £20.70m
2016 Memphis Depay £14.40m
2016 Paddy McNair £4.73m
2016 Tyler Blackett £1.62m
2016 Will Keane £1.08m
2017 Henrikh Mkhitaryan Sanchez
2017 Adnan Januzaj £7.65m
2017 Andreas Pereira £2.70m (loan fee)
2018 Daley Blind £14.40m
2018 Sam Johnstone £6.62m
2018 Marouane Fellaini £6.48m
2019 Romelu Lukaku £66.60m
2019 Chris Smalling £2.70m (loan fee)
2019 Matteo Darmian £2.23m
2019 Ashley Young £1.53m
In total, United has recovered £488.42m (plus one Alexis Sanchez) from player sales/loans.
Accordingly, under Glazer ownership, Manchester United has a total net spend of £889.38m.

So Where Has the Money Gone?

The Cost of a Takeover & Multiple Re-Financings
The Glazer family acquired United in 2005. United spent more money paying the interest costs associated with the newfound debt than they spent on player acquisitions any year between 2005 - when the club was acquired - and 2013 - when the debt was refinanced. [1] [2] [3]
In 2013, United refinanced their debt. By refinancing, United repaid about half of its outstanding bonds using a new bank loan from Bank of America. [1] By doing so, United reduced the club's interest bill from around £31m per year (pro-forma post the IPO) to around £21m per year. [1]
By the summer of 2015, Manchester United refinanced the club's debt on four separate occasions - the last of which occurred in 2015. [1] In 2015, the club's debt stood at £382m, with total annual interest costs of £20m. [1] The refinancing reduced the cash interest paid.
The amount of interest paid between 2005 and 2015 can be visualized here:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pilgsdeAZRc/VWn1gP4bkYI/AAAAAAAAEQw/tButyOPUIlM/s1600/2015%2Brefi%2Btable%2B3.png
Public float profits Glazers
Some have viewed the public float of the club's stock as evidence of a possible future in which the club is sold. To date, reality has not matched this expectation.
The initial public float raked in £150 million in funds. Per some reports, the initial plan was for the Glazers to pocket the full profits from the float, but the NYSE expressed reservations with that plan. [1]. Ultimately, half of the funds was used to pay off some of the club's takeover debt. [1] The remaining half landed in Glazer pockets. [1] [2]
Despite the funds realized from the float, the target price for the shares was $16-20 per share. The price was ultimately set at $14/share. [1] [2]
Hopes that the float would result in greater transparency were likewise short-lived. "Classed as an 'emerging growth' company, [1] United were exempted from having to reveal all their financial data to the market, [1] a position they reinforced by moving company registry from Old Trafford to the Cayman Islands." [1] [2] And by setting different voting rights for Class A and B shares, and retaining the Class B shares, the Glazers were able to retain a 78% ownership interest in the club - and an iron grip on the club's voting rights. [1]
Glazer Profits
Per the most recent financial reports, annual dividends total approximately £84 million. [1] In January, dividends of £11.3 million went to shareholders. [1] The Glazer family currently owns approximately 78% of the club, meaning they split approximately £8.8 million of that equally. [1]
In addition, the Glazers recovered approximately £75 million from the NYSE listing, together with loans to other companies (between 2005-'12), and further share sales. In total, the Glazers have made more than £200m selling slices of their shareholdings to investors. [1]
Upon refinancing the club's debt in 2010, the paperwork submitted revealed the Glazers had, since 2006, been paid £10m in “management and administration fees” and Kassewitz and each of her five brothers had borrowed £1.66m, £10m in total, from the club. [1] The total paid to the board and executive management in 2018-19 was £10.7m, which the accounts do not break down individually. Woodward is paid by a subsidiary company, Manchester United Football Club Ltd; his salary in 2017-18, the most recently published, was £4.152m. [1]
By comparison, in nine years at Liverpool, FSG has put in a net £100m. [1] Meanwhile, since initially purchasing the club in a £790 million leveraged takeover, the Glazers have "personally received close to £200 million from the club." [1]

Conclusion

In total, by some estimates the Glazers' ownership has cost the club £1.5 billion in interest, debt and other outgoing expenses. [1] By comparison, United has spent £1.3778 billion on player acquisitions, and recovered £488.42m from sales/loans, for a net spend of £889.38m. In total, Glazer ownership has cost United £610.6m more than United have spent on player acquisitions from 2005 to date.
Past Green & Gold Installments:
Part One: Who are the Glazers?
Part Two: The Takeover: How did that happen?
Part Three: The Glazer Transfer History - Can Insight be Gleaned regarding our Potential Summer Business?
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2020.08.24 11:35 demfrecklestho Weekly Schedule (August 24 - August 30)

2020 – Week 35

The previous week was a bit of a lull in this hectic late summer of cycling... but we're back to full speed now, with the European championships and the first stages of the Tour de France set to take place in the next days. Apart from that, there are interesting one-day races in Italy and Belgium, too.
Race M/W Rank M T W T F S S
Bretagne Classic-Ouest France M 1.WT x
GP de Plouay W 1.WT x
Tour Poitou-Charentes M 2.1 1 2 3a-b 4
La Course by le Tour de France W 1.WT x
Tour de France M 2.WT 1 2 (+19)
Druivenkoers M 1.1 x
Tour de Hongrie M 2.1 1 2 (+3)
Trofeo Matteotti M 1.1 x
Giro d’Italia U23 M 2.2U 1 2 (+6)
Brussels Cycling Classic M 1.Pro x
Memorial Marco Pantani M 1.1 x

European Championships

Race M T W T F
Junior ITT M / W
U23 ITT M / W
Elite ITT M / W
U23 RR W M
Elite RR M W
Junior RR M / W
Mixed Relay TTT x

GP Plouay and European Championships

The European Championships were supposed to take place in northern Italy this year, but the Covid outbreak reshuffled things. Trento is now set to host the Euros in 2021, while for this year the quest to find the new continental champions has been moved to Bretagne, France, where it will be held alongside an estabilished WT race, known as Bretagne Classic-Ouest France (for the men) or GP Plouay (for the women).
All the ITTs (junior, U23 and elite) will be held on Monday on a largely flat course around Plouay. The road races take up the following days- see the schedule above- and are all held on a short circuit around Plouay, featuring the short Restergal and Cote du Lezot climbs. The mixed relay TTT, which was introduced last year, is back on Friday and it will be held on the same course.
In all of this, the original WT races will still be held: they will conveniently take place on the days before the two elite races, so they will function as some sort of dress rehearsal. Like the Euros, they will start and end in Plouay, but instead of racing many laps of a small circuit, the riders will tackle a single longer loop. The men’s race will be held on Tuesday on the usual course full of short climbs, usually not enough to prevent a bunch sprint… but in recent years some riders have managed to make the race harder: Sep Vanmarcke won last year (the first WT win for the Belgian, by the way), so anything is possible. The women’s race follows on Wednesday morning- the course is similar, but shorter and even flatter! In the past, the race often came down to a reduced bunch sprint, but last year former world champion Anna van der Breggen won solo. Both races are set to be broadcasted live.

Tour de France (stages 1-2)

...probably the only race that doesn’t need a presentation! The Tour is obviously the most anticipated event of the year, and it being the first post-Covid Grand Tour means fans will probably be even more eager! This race had been touted for months as the big clash between the INEOS trident of Froome, Thomas and Bernal and the Jumbo trident of Dumoulin, Roglic and Kruijswijk, although in recent weeks we’ve learned that only 50% of the aforementioned riders will actually race the Tour in the end. Of course, there will be plenty of other top-tier riders besides those on those teams- Quintana, Pinot, Landa, Buchmann… the list goes on and on!
The race kicks off over the weekend, with the first two stages being loops around Nice. The first one features a few hills, while Sunday’s stage 2 is definitely harder with several climbs including the Col du Turini and the Col d’Eze of Paris-Nice fame. We will obviously cover the following weeks’ courses in the next threads.

La Course by le Tour de France

La Course is a women’s one-day race taking place alongside the Tour de France. First held in 2014, the race has shaped format and course pretty much every year… at first it was held on the last day of the Tour and saw the girls battle it out on the Champs Elysées a few hours before the boys, but in the last years it has replicated hilly stages and mountain stages too, and sometimes it lasted more than one day. For 2020, the race will be held alongside the first stage of the Tour, with the women’s peloton tackling part of the same hilly course. If the format of the race has changed every year, there’s something that has nearly always been the same- the winner’s nationality: we had five Dutch wins out of six editions of this race! In 2019, the race was held on a hilly loop around Pau (while the men were having an ITT), with Marianne Vos winning the thing. It will be broadcasted live!

Tour Poitou-Charentes en Nouvelle Aquitaine

After the Tour du Limousin last week, the Tour Poitou-Charentes is another regional race held in a French region that no longer exists, having been merged into Nouvelle Aquitaine a few years ago. Compared to Limousin, however, this event is held much closer to the Atlantic coast, on largely flat terrain with no uphill hurdle of any kind. It runs from Thursday to Sunday and it’s made up of five stages, including two half-stages on Saturday. There is a short ITT on the penultimate day, which might shape the GC a bit: it doesn’t really cater to specialist though… in recent years, whoever was in top shape at the moment claimed this race, with Christophe Laporte winning two sprints and the ITT last year and Arnaud Démare winning every single stage in 2018! I don’t think there will be a live broadcast for this race, only a regional TV channel is listed as media partner.

Belgian one-day races

After this run-down of all the French racing that is taking place next week… let’s go check what’s happening elsewhere starting from Belgium, which will host two one-day races over the weekend. First off is the Druivenkoers on Saturday, whose name means “Grapes race”! Its course features a relentless succession of short climbs around the Flemish town of Overijse… but it looks harder than it actually is, as this course is often not selective enough to prevent a bunch sprint. Last year, Dutch Arvid de Kleijn won, becoming the first non-Belgian winner of the race since 2009; the startlist was a bit subpar, to be fair, whereas there will be several WT teams tackling the race in 2020. It’s on Sporza.
On Sunday, the Brussels Cycling Classic follows. As the name suggests, this one-day race is held around the Belgian capital, wrapping up near one of the city’s most iconic sights- the Atomium. Despite some short and steep hills along the course, this race usually ends in a bunch sprint as well. Caleb Ewan won last year… but it was a very close call, as this picture attests. According to La Flamme Rouge this race should be live on GCN Race Pass.

Italian one-day races

There will be two one-day races held over the weekend in Italy as well. First off is Trofeo Matteotti, one of the southernmost races on the Italian calendar. Held near Pescara, this race features many laps of a hilly circuit… it’s usually selective enough to deny any chance of glory to pure sprinters, but not hard enough to prevent a win from good classics riders such as 2019 winner Matteo Trentin. The race was founded after WWII and is named after one of the heroes of Italian anti-fascist resistance, a socialist MP who spoke out against the regime during its first years and was thus kidnapped and killed by fascist militias.
The Memorial Marco Pantani follows on Sunday. Of course, it is a race held in memory of the former Giro and Tour winner, who is still widely loved by Italian fans despite his doping and drug addiction troubles, which led to his tragic early death. The race starts with a hilly first half but the last 40 kms are flat… it seems like an odd way to remember a rider known for his climbing prowess, but it’s because the race wraps up in Pantani’s hometown, Cesenatico… and there are simply no climbs nearby. This race had a hectic finale in 2019: the peloton was closing in on the breakaway, and Alexey Lutsenko timed a late attack perfectly, catching the break right on the finish line and claiming the win. This race should get a live broadcast in Italy, unlike the past few years, as Rai struck a deal with organizers GS Emilia.

Tour de Hongrie

The national tour of Hungary, like the Tour de France this race starts on Saturday and will last into the following week. The similarities with France end there though, as Hongrie is a fairly small race… although definitely on the rise, going from 0 WT teams at the start in 2019 to five in 2020! The race kicks off with two stages in the northeastern part of the country- stage 1 is hilly, while stage 2 is flat. GCN Race Pass will have this race live, whereas there will be a delayed broadcast on Eurosport.

Giro d’Italia U23

The U23 version of the Giro will kick off on Saturday as well, and will last for eight days. One of the most important races of the U23 calendar, it stopped being held for several years and was only picked back up in 2017, dropping the old GiroBio moniker. I’m not saying winning this race is necessarily an omen for good things to come… but Sivakov won in 2017 and Vlasov won in 2018, that’s quite something. In 2019 we had an all-Colombian podium, with race winner Andrés Camilo Ardila now enjoying his first pro season at UAE. The race kicks off with two hilly stages in the northern part of the Apennines, near San Marino.
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2020.08.13 07:55 D491234 An expose on the Hong Kong Democracy Council (HKDC), possible connection between the Hong Kong Democracy Council with Georgetown University, Jesuit Order and the Roman Catholic Church

An expose on the Hong Kong Democracy Council (HKDC), possible connection between the Hong Kong Democracy Council with Georgetown University, Jesuit Order and the Roman Catholic Church
This thread will be about the Hong Kong Democracy Council (HKDC) which is part of the Jesuit/Roman Catholic controlled Hong Kong Democracy Movement.
On the webpage of the Hong Kong Democracy Council, it states:
HKDC IS THE FIRST AND ONLY WASHINGTON, DC-BASED NONPARTISAN, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO PRESERVING HONG KONG’S BASIC FREEDOMS, THE RULE OF LAW, AND AUTONOMY.
For those who are unaware, last year during the Hong Kong Protest, the Hong Kong Democracy Council was responsible for lobbying for Bill S. 1838 known as the Hong Kong Freedom and Democracy Act whose author is Marco Rubio and Chris Smith and the Hong Kong Autonomy Act whose author is Chris Van Hollen and Pat Toomey which has been seen signed into law by Donald Trump.
https://twitter.com/hkdc_us/status/1195427303527981063
The Hong Kong Democracy Council is based in Jesuit controlled and Carroll founded Washington DC and its founder whose name is Samuel Chu who is involved with social justice and on its advisory board members is Jeffrey Ngo who is a member of Georgetown University
On Samuel Chu's wikipedia page it states:
Samuel Chu
Samuel Muk-Man Chu (Chinese: 朱牧民; born 3 January 1978) is a Hong Kong-born American activist and community organizer. Samuel is the founding and managing director of the Hong Kong Democracy Council (HKDC), the first and only DC-based nonpartisan, nonprofit organization dedicated to preserving Hong Kong's basic freedoms, the rule of law, and autonomy. He also serves as the national organizer for MAZON: A Jewish Response to Hunger, leading local and regional campaigns around issues of food insecurity and access in various states. He is a fellow at the Center for Religion and Civic Culture at University of Southern California, where he engages in research, writing and teaching around community organizing, public leadership, and the role of religious institutions in social change.
He served as chair and president of the board of directors of One LA-Industrial Areas Foundation, one of the nation's largest community organizing networks and of 1010 Development Corporation, a non-profit affordable housing developer in Los Angeles rooted in the United Methodist tradition.
He also directed special projects for Consumer Watchdog as well as the social justice program, Minyan Tzedek, at IKAR, a Jewish spiritual community that stands at the intersection of spirituality and social justice in Los Angeles, CA, led by Rabbi Sharon Brous.
Career
He pastored at Immanuel Presbyterian Church (Presbyterian Church USA) in Los Angeles, CA from 2002 to 2009., a multi-cultural, social justice congregation on Wilshire Boulevard.
He also served on board of directors of various other organizations such as the California Council of Churches.
Chu was the Executive Director of California Faith for Equality and California Faith for Equality Action Fund from January 2009 to March 2011. Chu was appointed as interim executive director in January 2009[11] and later appointed as CFE's first permanent executive director in April 2010 after an extensive national search. He was the first straight person to head a statewide lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender supportive organization. Under his leadership, CFE filed one of the largest amicus briefs to the courts in support of marriage equality.
In 2011, Chu was recognized by the City of Los Angeles with the LGBT Pride Award for his leadership in promoting and organizing religious support for LGBT civil rights and marriage equality.[13]
In 2008, Chu joined the effort, as a national director, to develop the national, bi-coastal network of youth development projects called WorkUp, focusing primarily on asset building, financial literacy, and social entrepreneurship.
He has organized for OneLA where his accomplishments included creating and implementing projects such as the largest community-led enrollment program for the Affordable Care Act in California and the nation's first mortgage principle reduction plan during the foreclosure crisis
In his role as National Organizer for MAZON: A Jewish Response to Hunger, Chu oversees engagement of over 950 synagogue partners across the country and directs a growing political constituency that has won legislative and administrative changes at the state and regional levels – including $8 million in new state funding to provide free school lunch to 62,000 additional low-income students in Minnesota, universal breakfast for over 4,000,000 students across 1,000 public school campuses in Texas, and improved access to Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (formerly known as "food stamps") for thousands of families, veterans and homeless minors in Pennsylvania and California.
Chu launched and led the nation's first state legislative effort to expose and address "lunch shaming" in Minnesota. "Lunch shaming" is the practice by school staff and workers of denying students healthy, nutritious meals because of the inability to pay or accrued debts. When a student is unable to pay for a school meal, he or she might be given an alternative meal (like half a cheese sandwich), some are turned away, other have their food taken away and dumped. The "shaming" extends to practices such as "hand stamping" – whereas a student's hand is stamped with the word "money" – or other forms of debt collection activities against the students and families. The campaign led to the expansion of free school meals to 62,000 additional low-income students in Minnesota and led to the first statewide ban on all shaming practices by schools.
From 2016 to 2017, Samuel served as the Director of the Civic Engagement Program for Murmuration – a 16-school pilot program in Los Angeles County designed to increase voter engagement and parent leadership by combining community organizing, voting data, and civic tech. The program resulted in a voting bloc of over 6,000 voters across partnering schools, registered over 2,000 new voters within the 16 school communities, and boosted voter turnout among pilot schools to consistently outpace the state, county, city and district turnout over 5 consecutive elections. In his role with Murmuration Samuel also organized one of the largest parent-led public actions in May 2017 to protect immigrant families with 300 parent leaders, California Senate President pro Tempore Kevin de León, Los Angeles City Attorney Mike Feuer, Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department and Los Angeles Police Department.
Chu is a frequent speaker and presenter at conferences, programs, and other training institutes, including #RealCollege, Planned Parenthood's Power of Pink, Advancing Justice Conference, the American Muslim Civic Leadership Institute, and the United States Student Association.
Chu also is managing director of the Hong Kong Democracy Council.
Samuel Chu is also very well known in the LGBT Movement in the US.
On the Hong Kong Democracy Council Advisory Board, one of the individuals is Jeffrey Ngo:
HKDC Advisory Board Members
On the Georgetown University page for Jeffrey Ngo, it states:
Jeffrey C. H. Ngo specializes in Global Asia and has broad interests in Chinese territorial and maritime frontiers, modern Vietnam, in addition to American and British foreign policy. Having concentrated his academic work on music history while in college, he has since moved on to explore questions of sovereignty, law, and human rights. His Ph.D. dissertation project, tentatively entitled ''Exodus,'' is an international history of how the Vietnamese boat people from 1975 to 2000 — and the three Indochina Wars more generally — influenced Hong Kong; it also examines how the U.N. and Western powers responded to the refugee crisis. His writing has appeared in Time magazine, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Hong Kong Free Press, and Dissent.
He holds an M.A. in Humanities and Social Thought (2017) and a B.A. in History & Journalism (2016) from New York University. In 2017–18, he was a visiting scholar at the University of Toronto. Prior to that, he has interned as a junior curator at the Smithsonian National Museum of American History and sat on the editorial board of the Historian, America's oldest undergraduate history journal. Fluent in Cantonese and Mandarin, he is currently studying second-year Vietnamese at SAIS and can read basic Japanese. He first lived in Washington, D.C., in the fall of 2014 during his study-away semester, before returning four years later to be a student — under Professor James A. Millward — here at Georgetown. But no matter how far he goes, his heart is always with the place he'll forever call home: Hong Kong.
Brian Leung of the Hong Kong Democracy Council also deserves exposure, for those who are not familiar around September of last year just before the violent Hong Kong Protests took place, he led a group of young people to storm the Hong Kong Legislative Council building. During the next day, when the Hong Kong Police was about to lead a operation to stop the young people in the Hong Kong Legislative Council building which resulted in mass arrests. Brian Leung went to the Hong Kong Airport and fled back to the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq0sdrrpbqs
https://twitter.com/TianaC/status/1270364938549096449
Sources
Hong Kong Democracy Council https://hkdc.us/
Samuel Chu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Chu
Pastor Samuel Chu to Head California Faith for Equality https://web.archive.org/web/20110307184656/http://www.lgbtpov.com/2010/04/pastor-samuel-chu-to-head-california-faith-for-equality/
Jeffrey Ngo https://gufaculty360.georgetown.edu/s/contact/0033600001YcoUpAAJ/jeffrey-ngo
Brian Leung https://hkdc.us/brian-leung/
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2020.08.08 01:38 LearningIsListening A not-so-brief rundown of the letter ‘S’ in Jeffrey Epstein's 'Little Black Book'

Below is a rundown of the letter ‘S’ under Epstein's contacts. Last year, I wrote about letters A-C. You can check that out here (https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/cpis3n/a_brief_rundown_of_the_first_ten_pages_of_jeffrey/).
I also wrote about letters D-F on July 5, 2020. You can check that out here (https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/hlrba8/a_notsobrief_rundown_of_letters_df_in_jeffrey/).
I posted letters G-I on July 13, 2020. You can check that out here (https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/hqko0y/a_notsobrief_rundown_of_letters_gi_in_jeffrey/).
I posted letters J-L on July 15, 2020. You can check that out here (https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/hrq9bg/a_notsobrief_rundown_of_letters_jl_of_jeffrey/).
I posted letter M on July 20, 2020. You can check that out here (https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/huw0yt/a_notsobrief_rundown_of_the_letter_m_in_jeffrey/).
I posted letters N-Q on July 27, 2020. You can check that out here (https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/hyudbz/a_notsobrief_rundown_of_the_letters_nq_in_jeffrey/). There are some misspelled names. Epstein entered their names like this.
I posted letter R on July 29, 2020. You can check that out here (https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/i0aqxd/a_notsobrief_rundown_of_the_letter_r_in_jeffrey/)
I have bolded some of the more interesting connections and information, but there could be much more that I overlooked. I hope something here strikes an interest in someone and maybe we can get more investigations out of this. Please, if you know anything more about any of these people than what is presented here, post below. I am working off of the unredacted black book found here: https://www.coreysdigs.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Jeffrey-Epsteins-Little-Black-Book-unredacted.pdf
S
Sacco, Amy: Nightclub mastermind behind Bungalow 8 and many other clubs. Listing her list of connections would take too long because her clubs are always hot spots for celebrities and the elite. The NY Times wrote a decent article (https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/14/fashion/the-empress-is-in-amy-sacco-holds-court-at-another-new-york-nightspot.html) about Sacco’s clubs and clientele. Sacco has been photographed with Ghislaine, India Hicks, and Sophie Dahl, all of whom appear in Epstein’s black book (https://www.patrickmcmullan.com/photo/1563479).
Sachs, Jeffrey: Naming all of his titles would be an endeavor in itself. Sachs is a very influential figure who is best known for being an economist, an adviser to the United Nations, and a University Professor at Columbia University. Sachs serves on the Council on Foreign Relations, where Epstein served from 1995-2009. It is unclear whether he was there at the same time as Epstein, although given his popularity and influence, especially in the early 2000s, I would be surprised if he wasn’t around then.
Saffra, Edmund: Billionaire banker and alleged money launderer with tons of enemies who died under very mysterious circumstances in 1999. The official story was that one of his nurses - in an attempt to gain favor with Safra by saving him from danger - intentionally started a small fire in Safra’s home, which soon spiraled out of control, causing Safra to lock himself in the bathroom and suffocate to death. This article (https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2000/12/dunne200012) does a good job of pointing out that Safra had many enemies, was a shady character, and was absolutely obsessed with security for himself and his family. It seems odd that Safra would allow his security detail (Mossad vets) to leave his home that night. This article (https://www.theguardian.com/theobserve2000/oct/29/features.magazine47) from The Guardian includes a statement from Ted Maher’s (the nurse who was convicted of starting the fire) wife, stating that he was coerced into signing a confession. Elie Wiesel, the author of Night who is also listed in Epstein’s contacts, was a good friend of Safra’s.
Safro, Wayne: Financial advisor.
Said, Wafic: Financier and businessman. Said is the Chairman of a children’s charity called the Said Foundation, where Prince Charles’s former private secretary, Sir Michael Peat GVCO, serves on the board of trustees (https://www.saidfoundation.org/pages/33-trustees-and-staff). The charity helps underprivileged children from the Middle East. Said has also contributed a lot of money to Prince Charles’s The Prince of Wales’s Charitable Fund, which, among other things, is dedicated to helping children.
Sainsbury, Mr Jamie: Descendant of the founder of the Sainsbury grocery chain. Old friend of Ghislaine Maxwell (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8466853/What-girls-frolicked-Bullingdon-boys-Oxfords-brightest-young-women-rose-top.html). James’s sister, Camilla, was married to British MP, Shaun Woodward, for 28 years. Camilla and Shaun are Trustees of The Woodward Charitable Trust, which helps disadvantaged children, women, and families (http://woodwardcharitabletrust.org.uk/portfolio/about_us/).
Salama, Eric: Former CEO of Kantar consulting firm. Also served as a Trustee for the British Museum (2000-2008). Survived a carjacking after getting stabbed last year (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6618395/Government-adviser-stabbed-carjacking-reveals-fine-punctured-lung.html).
Saltzman, Elizabeth: Contributing editor to Vanity Fair and Vogue, two of the three publications (along with Tatler) that continuously show up among Epstein’s contacts. Saltzman is also a celebrity fashion stylist with clients such as Gwyneth Paltrow, Saoirse Ronan, Stella McCartney, and Uma Thurman, the ex-wife of Arpad Busson, who is possibly one of the key players in this pedophile ring (https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/cl34ju/arpad_busson_billionaire_businessman_or_possible/). Andre Balazs, the hotelier who also seems to be embroiled in this whole fiasco held a party in 1995. Those in attendance included Ghislaine Maxwell, Katie Ford, and Elizabeth Saltzman (https://www.nydailynews.com/archives/gossip/taming-liz-fortensky-rumors-article-1.686445), all of whom appear in Epstein’s black book. In fact, Saltzman is a long-time friend of Ghislaine (https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Mysterious-business-of-the-queen-of-NY-Lon-1.pdf). This article also reveals that Ghislaine was introduced to Prince Andrew by the Duchess of York (Sarah Ferguson), and, even more telling, that Epstein was suspected of having Mossad ties when the article was written in 2000. In addition to all this, Saltzman is the ex-wife of hedge fund billionaire Glenn Dubin (https://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/14/style/miss-saltzman-editor-is-wed-to-glenn-dubin.html), one of the most heavily implicated people in Epstein’s pedophilia and child trafficking ring. I implore you to read more about Dubin (and his wife) in my D-F black book thread (https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/hlrba8/a_notsobrief_rundown_of_letters_df_in_jeffrey/). Saltzman can also be seen here, sitting next to Prince Andrew in 2010 (https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/world/4780114-Britains-Prince-Andrew-is-stepping-back-from-public-duties-after-Epstein-controversy). The lists of celebrities and well-known figures that Saltzman has been photographed with is unending.
Samuels, Mia: Actually Maia Samuel, former Producer of ABC Primetime (1989-1994). Went on to work for NBC, Bloomberg, and CNBC in various producer roles over the years. Now works as Director, Content Studios for Reuters (https://www.linkedin.com/in/maia-samuel-92172a10). Epstein has quite a few television ties, most notably to ABC news programs.
Sandelman, Jon & Corrie: Jonathan is a hedge fund manager and former Managing Director of Bank of America Securities. Corrie is his wife.
Sangster, Guy & Fi: Son of racing tycoon Robert Sangster, Guy is Managing Director at Sangster Group, which is involved in the Horse Racing industry. He also works as an investment adviser with Hambro Perks, a venture capitalist company. Prince Andrew is a close friend of Guy and his wife, Fiona. Prince Andrew even attended Sangster’s 40th birthday party (https://www.the-sun.com/news/136709/prince-andrews-pals-claims-witness-who-saw-him-with-sex-slave-is-confused-as-he-was-in-club-3-days-late).
Sangster, Mr Ben: Guy Sangster’s brother and fellow racing heir. Long-time acquaintance/friend(?) of the Royal Family. According to this article, the Sangsters are “one of the most high profile society families in London and often hang out with the royals (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5008073/Robert-Sangster-s-son-marries-Princess-Eugenie-s-friend.html).
Santo Domingo, Julio Mario: Unsure if this is the father or the son. Either way, this is a billionaire Colombian businessman whose company has controlling stock in Bavaria Brewery and is the 2nd highest stockholder of Anheuser Busch (15%). The senior Julio Mario Santo Domingo died in 2011. His son died from cancer in 2009.
Santo, Mr & Mrs M Espirito: Likely the former owners (or high-ranking family) of the Espirito Santo banking dynasty., which was forced to shutter due to charges of fraud, money laundering, and falsifying documents (https://www.cnbc.com/2014/07/30/how-a-portuguese-banking-mess-took-down-a-dynasty.html). Banco Espirito Santo was Portugal’s second-largest bank.
Saud Prince Solman: Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman was a close friend of Epstein’s and met with him many times. Epstein even had a photograph of bin Salman hanging on his wall. The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia has been linked to the murder of Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi, a Saudi dissident who was lured to the Saudi consulate in Istanbul and subsequently killed. The Crown Prince, said to have ordered the murder, and those who were physically involved with the murder, ultimately went unpunished. According to this article (https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/jeffrey-epstein-what-we-know-about-paedophile-businessmans-ties-middle-east), the numbers listed likely belong to the Crown Prince’s father, King Salman bin Abdulaziz, Prime Minister of Saudi Arabia. Epstein’s Austrian passport had a fake name and Saudi address. This passport was to have been given to him by “a friend.” In November 2016, one day before the election, Epstein flew to Riyadh. Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and Amazon owner Jeff Bezos were in Riyadh at the same time, leading some to believe that the three may have met up (https://www.insider.com/epstein-riyadh-saudi-arabia-private-jet-2019-9).
Scerbo, Randall: A female (despite the name) fashion stylist and costume designer who eventually went into consulting. Randall also has credits as a producer and content creator for the Miss USA and Miss Universe beauty pageants.
Schiatti, Gianmarco: Creative director who helped several fashion companies (Gucci, Chanel, Coach, Ralph Lauren, Prada, etc.) with rebranding.
Schifter, Helen & Tim: Helen is a former arbitrage trader on Wall Street, as well as a socialite and a former editor at Hearst and Conde Nast (publisher of Tatler and Vogue), making this the 9000th Epstein-Conde Nast connection. Helen’s father is a businessman and has served as a consultant for the Du Pont Company. She runs in the same circles as Ghislaine Maxwell and has been at several of the same parties (https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/helen-lee-schifter-ghislaine-maxwell-teddy-wong-and-news-photo/1169681659). Tim is CEO of LeSportsac, the luggage and tote bag manufacturer. Tim can be seen attending a Private Screening with Ghislaine Maxwell here (https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/tim-schifter-and-ghislaine-maxwell-attend-private-screening-news-photo/590659962).
Sebag Montefiore Simon & Santa: Simon Montefiore is a British historian, television presenter, and author of history books and novels. Ghislaine attended the launch of Montefiore’s book, “The Court of the Red Tsar” (https://deepclips.com/clip/3225/exclusive-i-fear-i-saw-virginia-roberts-inside-jeffrey-epstein-s-creepy-new-mexico-ranch-contractor-claims). Santa is his wife and sister of Tara Palmer-Tomkinson, who died of an ulcer in 2017. The Palmer-Tomkinson family is so close with the Royal Family that Prince Charles was named Tara’s godfather. As such, Simon and Santa are good friends of Prince Charles and Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/4721868/The-lit-girl.html). Simon’s great-great-uncle was an international financier who worked for the Rothschilds in the 1800s. Siimon and his family are still close to the Rothschilds to this day (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/01/montefiore200801).
Seitern, Christine: Architect.
Sejournet, Isabel de: Belgian arts consultant and wife of French Count Eric d’Hauteville. Isabelle was photographed at an annual charity dinner hosted by The AEM Association Children of the World for Rwanda (https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/isabelle-de-sejournet-and-caroline-sarkozy-attend-the-news-photo/157832558).
Shabtai, Benny: Israeli businessman who specializes in watches and telecommunications. Served as Chair for Friends of the Israel Defense Forces (FIDF) and has helped raise millions for the charity (https://electronicintifada.net/content/manhattans-friends-israel-defense-forces/5526). Epstein toured Israeli military bases with Shabtai in 2008 after being convicted of procuring an underage girl for prostitution (https://pagesix.com/2008/04/24/just-visiting/). Shabtai also served three years in the Israeli army and is a former bodyguard for the Israeli ambassador in Paris, France.
Shad, Brenda: Lingerie model who has known Epstein since the ‘90s (https://www.reddit.com/EpsteinAndFriends/comments/hbiwye/epstein_with_lingerie_model_brenda_schad_in_1997/). Almost married Robert Hanson (listed in my Epstein G-H thread) in 1996, the billionaire financier who was accused of raping Anouska de Georgiou when she was a teenager. She first met him when he was dating Naomi Campbell. Pictured with Maxwell here in 2005 (https://www.the-sun.com/news/103520/is-jeffrey-epsteins-unholy-alliance-with-the-victorias-secret-boss-the-real-reason-the-show-was-scrapped/).
Shearer Andre & Angie: Andre is a South African wine importer through his business, Cape Classics. Angie is his wife.
Shore Chris and Maura: Chris is a bankruptcy litigator. Mara is his wife, a licensed lawyer.
Shriver, Bobby: Nephew of JFK, RFK, and Ted Kennedy. His mother, Eunice Kennedy Shriver, founded the Special Olympics. Bobby now serves on the Board of Directors for the Special Olympics (https://www.specialolympics.org/about/board-of-directors/bobby-shriver). Epstein has several phone numbers listed for Shriver’s Special Olympics office in California.
Shriver, Maria: Bobby Shriver’s sister and niece of JFK, RFK, and Ted Kennedy. TV journalist and former ex-wife of Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Shuster, Susie: Suzy is a sportscaster who is married to long-time ESPN and NFL Network anchor, Rich Eisen.
Siegal, Peggy: Famous NYC publicist and close friend of Epstein who helped him out by continuously getting him into elite parties even after he was convicted of procuring an underage girl for prostitution in 2008 (https://nymag.com/intelligence2019/07/jeffrey-epstein-high-society-contacts.html). Her career in Hollywood has been obliterated, although many still secretly think she has been a scapegoat (https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-powea29643007/peggy-siegal-jeffrey-epstein-connection/), which once again proves the depravity of Hollywood.
Siegel, William (Bill): President of Chris-Craft Industries (1996-2001), a broadcasting company that owned several television channels across the U.S. Chris-Craft was eventually purchased by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation for $5.3 billion.
Sieghart, William: British entrepreneur and publisher. In 1986, he co-founded Forward Publishing with partner Neil Mendoza, who serves on the board of several children’s charities and is the current Provost of Oriel College. Mendoza appeared earlier in Epstein’s black book. Check out the letter ‘M’ thread for more information.
Silver, Ron: Silver (1946-2009), was a famous actor who also served on the Council on Foreign Relations. Co-founder of pro-Israeli organization, One Jerusalem, which organized a rally in 2001 to protest Palestinian sovereignty. Flipped political affiliations to vote for George W. Bush post-9/11. As a result, Bush appointed him to several posts, including one in which he worked under Scooter Libby, adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney.
Silverman, Nancy & Henry: Henry is an entrepreneur and private equity investor. Henry helped build Cendant Corporation, which specializes in car rentals, travel reservations, and real estate brokerage services. Nancy and Henry divorced in 2012 after 30 years of marriage. They literally lived around the block from Jeffrey Epstein.
Simon, Bren: Bren was the President of MBS Associates, a property management company. She and her husband (now deceased), support many children’s charities. Bren directs the Mel and Bren Simon Charitable Trust, which works closely with the Clinton Foundation (Haiti), the Clinton Global Initiative, and the Clinton School of Public Service (https://brensimon.com/our-work/). Bren is co-founder of The Family Support Center, a 24-hour child abuse care center. She also serves on the board of advisers for the Indiana Children’s Wish Fund. In 1998, Bren began working with the Mission International Rescue Foundation (MIR), which serves the children and young women of La Romana, Dominican Republic. Bren also created the Centro de Promocion Rural Max Simon, an orphanage that provides a safe environment for boys who have been abandoned, abused, or are living in extreme poverty. She also created the Bren Simon MIR Foundation Girls’ Vocational School (https://cancer.iu.edu/giving/simon/bren-bio.php). Bren Simon used to be a member of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Bill Clinton read a eulogy at her husband’s funeral (https://www.ibj.com/articles/67913-simon-sisters-among-top-political-donors-nationwide).
Simpson (Caruth), Sophie: Former literary agent at William Morris Agency. Serves as a Trustee for Rambert School of Ballet and Contemporary Dance.
Sindi, Rena & Sami: Rena is a socialite and daughter of Nemar A. Kirdar, who founded Investcorp bank in the ‘80s with Arab oil money (https://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/27/style/put-on-your-toga-bring-castanets-rena-sindi-is-giving-a-party.html). In 2007, Rena attended a party for Allegra Hicks at Ghislaine Maxwell’s house (https://medium.com/@the_war_economy/investigation-jeffrey-epstein-d2ad68e2e845). Her husband, Sami, is a venture capitalist.
Slayton, Bobby: Actocomedian who admits to seeing Epstein in West Palm Beach a few times over the years. Slayton says that “they weren’t friends,” although he once went to Epstein’s Manhattan mansion for coffee (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article234312632.html).
Smith Osborne: Not enough info.
Smith Peterson, Noona: Public relations officer and consultant who has worked for Tom Ford, Armani, Valentino, Calvin Klein, Michael Kors, and Tod’s. She now has her own PR agency. In 2015, Forbes named her one of the 12 women who have changed Italian fashion (https://www.forbes.com/sites/declaneytan/2015/02/06/the-12-women-whove-changed-italian-fashion/#553827046f86). Noona is married to Enrico Erba, who is a client manager for Giorgio Armani.
Smith, James: Co-founder and CEO of Aegis Trust, an organization focused at stopping genocide in Rwanda. Aegis “enables students, professionals, decision-makers and a wider public to meet survivors and learn from their experiences” (https://www.aegistrust.org/what-we-do/).
Snyder, Maria: Model, designer, artist, and entrepreneur who has worked for the likes of Armani, Versace, Valentino, Calvin Klein, and Karl Lagerfield. Snyder attended a ‘Free the Slaves’ benefit in 2010 where she was photographed with hotelier Andre Balazs, who is mired in Epstein/Maxwell stink, and Brenda Schad, who appears just above (last name incorrectly spelled ‘Shad’).
Soames, Rupert & Milly: Rupert is a British businessman and CEO of Serco, a government contractor that provides health, transport, justice, immigration, defense, and citizen services. Soames and his company is heavily involved in many aspects of government (he is very close with former British Prime Minister David Cameron), and as such, has a huge impact on the public. For example, Serco has been contracted to work on a Coronavirus track-and-trace system for the United Kingdom National Health Service (NHS) (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jun/04/nhs-track-and-trace-system-not-expected-to-be-operating-fully-until-september-coronavirus). Soames’s family is very close with the Royal Family (https://www.popsugar.com/celebrity/photo-gallery/44913948/image/44914915/Camilla-Dunne-Honorable-Rupert-Soames-1988). Prince William served as a pageboy at Rupert and Camilla’s wedding in 1988. Soames is the grandson of Winston Churchill and his brother, Nicholas Soames, served as a British MP from 1983-2019. Nicholas has been accused of being sexist and making inappropriate remarks by several female MPs. Nicholas is also a very close friend of Prince Charles (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/profile-charless-biggest-buddy-nicholas-soames-royalist-minister-for-food-1466703.html). Milly (Camilla) is Rupert’s wife and High Sheriff of Buckinghamshire. Milly is a Patron/Trustee for Pace Centre, a children’s charity dedicated to providing education for children with sensory motor disorders (https://thepacecentre.org/about-pace/mission-values-vision/), Heart of Bucks (https://heartofbucks.org/committees-patrons/), an all-purpose charity that divvies up money to many causes, several of which involve children (https://heartofbucks.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/hob-annual-report-2018-2019-web.pdf), Action4Youth (https://www.action4youth.org/trustees/), which “partners with government, schools, youth clubs, businesses, trusts and foundations, and others (https://www.action4youth.org/about-action4youth/vision-mission-values/). Camilla is also the daughter of Sir Thomas Raymond Dunne, who served as a Lord Lieutenant of Hereford and Worcester, Worcestershire, and Herefordshire. Her brother, Phillip, has been a British Conservative MP since 2005.
Sobrino, Esperanza: Director of Acquavella art gallery.
Solomon, Andrew: Writer for The New York Times, The New Yorker, and other publications. Member of Council on Foreign Relations where Epstein once served.
Soros Peter: Nephew of George Soros. Works as an investment banker. Soros’s name is circled in Epstein’s black book. It turns out that Epstein’s former house manager circled the names of all material witnesses before he died in 2014 (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/07/jeffrey-epstein-black-book-nick-bryant).
Soros, Peter: Same as above.
Soto, Fernando de: Real estate consultant.
Soto, Jaime & Marina de: No info found.
South, Hamilton: Founder of HL Group, a large marketing firm. Former Chief Marketing Officer for Ralph Lauren. South was a good friend of Carolyn Besette Kennedy (wife of JFK Jr) before she died. He was also a good friend of Lee Radziwill, mother-in-law of Carole Radziwill, listed earlier in Epstein’s book (check out the letter ‘R’ thread), before Lee’s passing.
Souza, Carlos: Works in public relations for Valentino.
Spacey, Kevin: Famous actor who has been accused of sexual assault by actor Anthony Rapp and 14 others (https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2017/11/07/kevin-spacey-scandal-complete-list-13-accusers/835739001/). He was on the infamous Epstein Africa flight with Clinton and Chris Tucker. Spacey also made this chilling video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZveA-NAIDI), which many think was a direct threat to the Royal Family. As a lot of you know, Spacey was close with the Royal Family and Ghislaine Maxwell. Just last month, a picture surfaced of Spacey and Ghislaine sitting on the British throne (https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/04/uk/maxwell-spacey-throne-gbr-intl/index.html).
Squire, Hugo: See Hugo Swire below.
St. Bris, Edward: International license manager at Pierre Cardin.
Stanburry, Caroline: Reality TV star from the show Ladies of London. Stanbury has also worked in public relations and as a stylist. Ex-girlfriend of Prince Andrew (after his divorce from the Duchess of York) and actor Hugh Grant.
Stark, Koo: Famous photographer who dated Prince Andrew for nearly two years in the early ‘80s. Stark eventually married (and divorced) Tim Jefferies, who was listed earlier in Epstein’s book (check the J-L thread). Stark went on to have a daughter with someone else. Prince Andrew is the godfather.
Starzewski Thomas: Famous British fashion designer whose clothes have been worn by the Royal Family.
Steenkamp, Chris: Not enough info. Possibly the artist responsible for these lovely drawings (https://www.instagram.com/christophersteenkamp.art/?hl=en), but I cannot confirm.
Steiner, Jeffrey: Not enough info. Probably the co-managing partner of MWE real estate group. I could be wrong, though.
Steinkampf, Chris & Nina: No info found.
Stengel, Andrew: Former director of acquisitions for Miramax. Former aide to Governor Mario Cuomo (father of Andrew and Chris).
Stengel, Rick & Mary: Richard is an editor, author, and government official (Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs) under Barack Obama. Richard is now a Senior Advisor at Snapchat and serves on the board of CARE, a charity that caters to women and children (https://care.org/about-us/leadership/richard-stengel/). Mary is his South African wife. Nelson Mandela was the godfather to their son, Gabriel.
Stern, Allison & Leonard: Allison (nee Maher) is a former model and TV producer. Her husband, Leonard, is a billionaire businessman involved in real estate. Leonard founded Homes for the Homeless, a charity that aims to help the financially disadvantaged. A large focus of the charity is children and youth (https://www.hfhnyc.org/). Leonard is also quite the heartless bastard. He announced that he was selling a Homes for the Homeless apartment building in midtown Manhattan, forcing its inhabitants to move out (https://thejewishvoice.com/2019/12/billionaires-nyc-homeless-facility-boots-out-elderly-tenants-before-holidays/). Just to show an example of how all these wealthy people truly do know each other, here is a link with pictures of Malcolm Forbes’s 70th birthday party in Morocco in 1989. Forbes flew out 800 guests (https://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/this-was-then-malcolm-forbes-70th-birthday-part-i/), including Leonard and Allison Stern, Robert Maxwell (Ghislaine’s father), Rupert Murdoch, Ronald Perelman, Barbara Walters, Robert and Blaine Trump, Diane von Furstenberg, King Constantine, Henry Kissinger, James Goldsmith, Hamish Bowles, Gianni Agnelli, Kay Graham, Elizabeth Taylor, Calvin Klein, Oscar de la Renta, Walter Cronkite, Ann Getty, Fran Lebowitz, and more. Not only are these people rich, famous, and powerful, but many of them also appear in Epstein’s black book.
Stevens Michael: Not enough info.
Stopford-Sackville, Charlie &: Charles works in finance and securities. Owner of Drayton House (https://www.northamptonshiresurprise.com/organisation/drayton/) in Northamptonshire, England. Married to Shona McKinney, who I am guessing is the name that got cut off in Epstein’s black book. Shona is a good friend of Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-317052/Marks-married-maiden.html, who is a key figure in this whole Jeffrey Epstein saga.
Stracher Kate: Kate is an artist who went to Oxford with Ghislaine, but claims that she hasn’t seen her since then. (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1365733/How-Prince-Andrew-shared-room-Epsteins-Caribbean-hideaway-busty-blonde-claimed-brain-surgeon.html).
Sundlun, Stuart: Managing director of BMB Advisors, a private equity firm. Son of Governor Bruce Sundlun of Rhode Island (1991-1995). Stuart’s father also served as director of the National Security Education Board (NSEB) for four years under Clinton. Bruce is a great friend of Clinton right hand man (and multiple-time passenger on Epstein’s flight log), Ira Magaziner. Magaziner also appeared in Epstein’s black book (check out the ‘M’ thread for more info).
Sunley, Mr James & Amanda: James is CEO of Sunley Holdings, an investment company.
Sutherland, Harry: Likely refers to the investment banker who is Chairman of CrossInvest, an offshore corporate service company.
Svenlinson, Peter: Venture capitalist and founder of The Column Group. Served as Chairman for several pharmaceutical companies (Aragon, which was sold to Johnson & Johnson and Seragon, until it was solid to Genentech/Roche).
Swire, Sophie: English fashion entrepreneur who established a school for jewelers and gem-cutters in Afghanistan at Prince Charles’s request (https://adventurersclub.org/archives/calendanov2015.php). Co-founder of Learning for Life, an educational charity. She was a Trustee and Chairperson from 1995-2000. Learning for Life has established over 250 schools for girls in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and India.
Swire, Hugo: Swire is a British Conservative Party politician who served as a Member of Parliament (MP) from 2001-2019. Son of Roger, director of Sotheby’s.
Swire, Jenny: Former Miss South Africa. Fashion director for Wedding Magazine and TV personality. Contributing editor for Tatler, a publication which has appeared more than ten times amongst Epstein’s contacts.
Swire, Mark: Involved in real estate.
Sykes, Lucy Ewen: Entrepreneur, fashion executive, and socialite. Fashion director of Marie Claire magazine. Former consultant for Ralph Lauren, T. J. Maxx, and Tommy Hilfiger. Good friend of nightclub guru Amy Sacco, who is one of the contacts listed earlier in this thread. Lucy and her husband attended a dinner for Prince Andrew at Epstein’s house in the early 2000s (https://www.thecut.com/2019/07/ghislaine-maxwell-the-socialite-on-jeffrey-epsteins-arm.html). Lucy’s husband, Euan Rellie, has been a friend of Ghislaine Maxwell’s for years.
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2020.08.06 23:14 lolpolice88 White Power Mormon Cult sells Ancestry.com to White Power Trump/Republicunt Blackstone Group. Alongside White Power boosting Facebook they are siphoning up all whakapapa information to use in their Manifest Destiny ideology built on racist, criminal exploitation.

World’s Biggest Landlord Buys World’s Biggest Genealogy Website
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2020/08/worlds-biggest-landlord-buys-worlds-biggest-genealogy-website/
" 📷Stephen A. Schwarzman (centre), CEO of the Blackstone Group which is purchasing a majority stake in Ancestry.com, sits with President Donald Trump (left) and Chris Liddell (right) at the White House on April 11, 2017. (Photo: Brendan Smialowski, Getty Images)
The Blackstone Group will buy a majority stake in the genealogy website Ancestry.com in a deal worth $US4.7 ($7) billion, according to a press release published Wednesday. Blackstone Group, a private equity firm, is the world’s largest landlord and Ancestry is the world’s largest genealogy website, with over 6 billion records on family history in the U.S. alone. Ancestry also provides DNA testing and has over 18 million DNA test results in its databases.
Ancestry officially operates in over 34 countries around the world, though it’s accessible from pretty much anywhere on the planet. The genealogy website was founded in Utah in 1996 and has over three million paying subscribers with revenue of roughly $US1 ($1) billion a year. The company has expanded into DNA testing in recent years and has partnered with drug companies to share data, raising plenty of eyebrows among privacy activists. The Pentagon has even warned U.S. military personnel against using DNA test kits available from companies like Ancestry and 23andMe.
Blackstone is buying a 75% stake in Ancestry, according to the Financial Times, and owns hundreds of thousands of properties around the world. Blackstone owns both commercial and residential real estate in the U.S., Europe, Asia, and South America, including high-profile hotels like the Bellagio in Las Vegas and the biggest apartment complex in Manhattan. The properties are often owned under countless subsidiary names.
The United Nations issued a report in 2019 accusing Blackstone of “wreaking havoc” with “aggressive evictions” and contributing to the housing crisis that was becoming apparent even before the coronavirus pandemic sent the global economy spiraling. Blackstone made a killing from the 2009 financial crisis, scooping up billions of dollars worth of apartment complexes and single-family homes in the early 2010s.
The CEO and co-founder of Blackstone, billionaire Stephen A. Schwarzman, contributes significant sums of money to the Republican Party and has close ties to the Trump regime, serving on President Trump’s business advisory council in 2017. Schwarzman previously called proposed tax hikes on businesses during the Barack Obama administration, “like when Hitler invaded Poland in 1939,” something that he later apologised for.
The Ancestry deal raises plenty of ethical questions to anyone who’s been paying attention and people are already telegraphing their concerns on social media about the deal. There’s no evidence that Blackstone has purchased Ancestry in an effort to discriminate against tenants based on race or national origin, but it’s not unreasonable to ask if buying a genealogy website will make unethical and illegal behaviour easier in a world where we know that housing discrimination is still rampant — not just in the U.S. but around the world.
U.S. federal housing laws prohibit landlords from discriminating against potential tenants based on race, religion, and national origin, among other categories. But Big Tech companies like Facebook have made it much easier for landlords to do precisely that behind the scenes. Back in 2016, an investigation by ProPublica found that Facebook allowed property owners to target ads based on race, a clear violation of the Fair Housing Act of 1968 and the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Facebook called it a technical glitch, but didn’t abolish the practice until 2019 following a slew of lawsuits from civil rights organisations.
For whatever it’s worth, Blackstone says it’s just interested in digital consumer businesses and wants to invest more money into data development for the company.
“We are very excited to partner with Ancestry and its management team. We believe Ancestry has significant runway for further growth as people of all ages and backgrounds become increasingly interested in learning more about their family histories and themselves,” David Kestnbaum, a Senior Managing Director at Blackstone, said in a statement published online.
“We look forward to investing behind further data, functionality, and product development across Ancestry’s market leading platform to continue to provide a differentiated service. Our investment is a prime example of Blackstone’s continued, high-conviction focus on investing in growing, digital consumer businesses, which are resilient in the current environment and beyond.”
Will individual property managers who operate under Blackstone have access to Ancestry’s DNA and genealogy records? Technically, any landlord can already use many of the company’s records today, just as they use commercial background checks and consumer-facing products like Google’s search engine. But it’s perfectly rational to ask seemingly paranoid questions during an increasingly paranoid time.
The U.S. does, after all, currently have a president who was pursued by the U.S. Department of Justice in 1973 for housing discrimination at his rental properties in New York, long before the internet and DNA testing were available to the masses. President Trump and his father used to write a big “C” on the rental applications of Black people. What did the “C” stand for? Coloured.
Editor’s Note: Release dates within this article are based in the U.S., but will be updated with local Australian dates as soon as we know more."
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2020.08.06 18:11 highonehand Clijsters, Bellis, Osuigwe get US Open Wildcards – Press Release

US OPEN ANNOUNCES WOMEN’S SINGLES WILD CARD RECIPIENTS
WHITE PLAINS, N.Y., Aug. 6, 2020 – The USTA today announced that three-time US Open champion Kim Clijsters and Americans Usue Arconada, CiCi Bellis, Francesca Di Lorenzo, Caroline Dolehide, Ann Li, Robin Montgomery and Whitney Osuigwe received singles main draw wild card entries into the 2020 US Open, to be played August 31-September 13 at the USTA Billie Jean King National Tennis Center in Flushing, N.Y.
Clijsters, the International Tennis Hall of Famer and three-time US Open women’s singles champion (2005, 2009-10), will be playing the US Open for the first time since her second retirement in 2012. The 37-year-old Belgian holds four major singles titles and 41 WTA titles and became the first mother to hold the world No. 1 ranking. She returned to the tour at the beginning of this year and currently is not ranked.
Arconada, 21, of Naples, Fla., is ranked No. 138. She partnered with Dolehide to win doubles gold at the Pan American Games last summer and won three pro singles titles in 2019, two W25-level tournaments and the W60 in Honolulu.
Bellis, 21, of Orlando, Fla., is ranked No. 304. She is a former world No. 35 who was named the WTA’s Newcomer of the Year in 2017. She missed nearly 20 months of play while undergoing wrist and elbow surgeries, returning to action in November 2019 and reaching the Australian Open third round in January.
Di Lorenzo, 23, of New Albany, Ohio, is ranked No. 128 and won her first ITF W60-level singles title in 2019. She turned pro in 2017 after two standout seasons at Ohio State, where she was a two-time All-American and won the NCAA doubles title as a sophomore.
Dolehide, 21, of Orlando, Fla., is ranked No. 134. A 2019 US Open doubles semifinalist, Dolehide won two ITF W60-level singles titles in 2019 and brought home the singles silver and doubles gold medals from the Pan American Games last summer in Lima, Peru.
Li, 20, of Devon, Pa., is ranked No. 131. She is a former Wimbledon girls’ singles finalist who qualified and reached the Australian Open second round in January. She won 44 pro singles matches in 2019 and reached the finals of three ITF tournaments at the W60 level and above.
Montgomery, 15, of Washington, D.C., is ranked No. 600 professionally and No. 5 in the juniors. A product of the National Junior Tennis & Learning chapter at the JTCC in College Park, Md., Montgomery led the U.S. to the 16-and-under Junior Fed Cup title and won the prestigious Orange Bowl girls’ 18s title in 2019. She won her first pro singles title at a W25 event in March in Las Vegas.
Osuigwe, 18, of Bradenton, Fla., is ranked No. 143. A former world junior No. 1 and the 2017 French Open girls’ singles champion, Osuigwe won her second career pro singles title in 2019, at a W80-level event in Charlottesville, Va.
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2020.08.06 16:56 MatthewMir WWE Network Primer Part 2 - Your guide to every match you should watch on the WWE Network during lockdown/quarantine.

Hi Everyone,
You may know me from my Essential Lists post I have posted throughout the last few years - which you can find here shameless plug I know
 
Unfortunately where I live in Australia is currently in a Stage 4 COVID-19 Lockdown which has given me some spare time to actually work on a new list - that looks at another top 100 WWE Matches.
 
These collection of matches are my own personal opinion of the another Top 100 WWE Matches; for this specific list I tried to include more forgotten gems and/or matches that I deserve more love from fans. I have not included Dave Meltzer’s ratings like I usually would on these lists but have decided to use CageMatch Ratings. I understand there is going to plenty of omissions of matches but before you comment saying matches are missing – please look at the original listed which I posted a few months ago. Also since a few people have commented on these posts saying 'stop throwing lists at us with no information' so on a few matches I’ve added a little bit of a backstory for new fans/fans of who haven’t seen the matches, some match details do contain spoilers, so you have been warned. I have also tried to add a link to each match as well; all videos come from the WWE Network.
Alright, now lets start the list:
 
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2020.08.04 12:23 finnagains Capitalists decide the fate of the US Postal Service

Workers have responded with outrage to the recent leaked memos detailing efforts to privatize the United States Postal Service (USPS) by implementing major cost-cutting measures, slowing down the mail delivery speed, and making the federal agency seem unreliable in the middle of an election year that will see an increase of mail-in voting due to the COVID-19 pandemic. The internal memo, released July 10, stated that mail deliveries would be delayed due to cost-cutting and prohibitions on overtime, with “more to come.”
On July 27, newly appointed Postmaster General Louis DeJoy declared: “The Postal Service is in a financially unsustainable position, stemming from substantial declines in mail volume, and a broken business model.”
DeJoy continued: “We are currently unable to balance our costs with available funding sources to fulfill both our universal service mission and other legal obligations. Because of this, the Postal Service has experienced over a decade of financial losses, with no end in sight, and we face an impending liquidity crisis.” The campaign to privatize the Postal Service
This is only the latest in a campaign to privatize the Post Office spanning over a half century, which began in 1970 with the adoption of the Postal Reorganization Act after a nationwide postal workers’ strike. The law, first proposed under President Johnson in 1967, outlawed strikes in favor of binding arbitration, and spun off the Post Office Department, formerly a cabinet-level agency, into a publicly owned corporation, the United States Postal Service.
By the 1980s, the USPS was cut off from all federal funding, forcing it to rely solely on revenue from its own products and services. In 2006, George Bush’s Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act forced the USPS to fully fund retirement benefits without governmental assistance, creating a mountain of debt for the agency. The USPS has had declining revenue since the early 2000s as a result of the decline of paper mail delivery, and it has been losing money since 2007.
In 2018, the Trump administration released a plan calling for the USPS to either be sold off to a private company or become a publicly traded entity with shares bought and sold by wealthy investors on the stock market.
The working class faces the brunt of the consequences for these conscious actions to undermine the USPS as a public service. According to a 2019 article by Government Executive, the USPS has slashed 300,000 “career worker” jobs since 1999, an average of 14,285 per year.
Public postal services have already been privatized throughout Europe and in Japan, a process that is praised as a model to use in the United States by the right-wing Cato Institute think tank: “Congress should prepare for longer‐term changes by studying European experiences with postal service reform and readying the USPS for privatization and increased competition.”
For the ruling class, it is not a matter of if the USPS will be privatized, but when and how it will be done. Those who currently manage the USPS are well aware of their aims.
Who runs USPS?
The USPS’s Board of Governors, equivalent to a board of directors for a private company, is given the power to direct and control its expenditures, review its practices, conduct long-range planning, approve officer compensation and set policies on all postal matters.
Board members are appointed by the president and must be confirmed by the Senate. The Postmaster General is appointed and voted on by the Board of Governors. Since 2006, members serve terms of seven years and supposedly must represent “public interest generally and cannot be representatives of special interests.”
But the current members of the USPS Board of Governors represent their class with all of its criminal, profit-driven, and anti-worker characteristics.
Louis DeJoy is the new Postmaster General, approved unanimously by the Board of Governors in May. He is the former president of investment firm LDJ Global Strategies and long-time CEO of New Breed Logistics, which merged with XPO Logistics in 2014 for a reported $615 million. Along with his record as a wealthy corporate executive, he serves as a “mega-donor” and well-known fundraiser for the Republican Party and Donald Trump. DeJoy is the first Postmaster General to be appointed from outside the USPS in decades.
Robert M. Duncan is the Chairman of the Board, appointed by Trump and approved by the Senate with 86 bipartisan votes and 11 abstentions in August 2018. Like DeJoy, he is well-known for his service to the Republican Party, having served in an administrative position under George H.W. Bush. As Chairman of the Republican National Committee, his USPS web biography explains, “he raised an unprecedented $428 million and grew the donor base to 1.8 million—more donors than at any time in RNC history.” He also sits on the boards of the coal industry lobby group American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity, a private liberal arts college in Kentucky, and a regional bank chain in Kentucky.
Ron A. Bloom was also appointed by President Trump and unanimously approved by the Senate in August 2019. With a background in investment banking, Bloom is more closely aligned with the Democratic Party and the unions. He served as Special Assistant to the President of the United Steelworkers (USW) between 1996 and 2008, representing the union in contract negotiations with steel companies that caused hundreds of thousands of workers to lose their jobs and pensions.
From 2009 to 2011, he advised the Obama administration during its restructuring of the auto industry, which returned US automakers to profitability by slashing wages in half for new hires and shedding tens of thousands of jobs. Bloom has advised over 100 corporate restructurings with similar results.
While his career “accomplishments” have been devastating to the lives of many workers, Bloom is beloved by the unions, who gained access to lucrative pension and health care investment funds from the restructuring agreements.
According to a CNN article in 2011, the National Association of Letter Carriers (NALC), one of the four postal unions and which covers 250,000 workers, hired Bloom to help them develop “a ‘pro-growth’ business plan that would supposedly ‘save’ the postal service while avoiding drastic cuts.” At the time, NALC President Frederic Rolando said that Bloom had “extensive experience helping to revitalize numerous large and complex business enterprises around the world.”
John M. Barger was appointed as a board member by President Trump and unanimously approved by the Senate in August 2019. He is registered as a Republican and continues to operate as the active “managing director of NorthernCross Partners, an investment and advisory firm providing private capital and advisory services to middle market companies and private equity funds.” Barger has resided on the management boards of a variety of private e-commerce and logistics companies, offering financial and investment advice.
Barger also served as chairman of the Board of Investments of the Los Angeles County Employees Retirement Association (LACERA) between 2011 and 2014, overseeing $65 billion in pension assets for more than 150,000 public county employees. During that time, he offered expert advice on placing those public assets into Wall Street and business investments.
Roman Martinez IV was appointed by Trump and approved by the Senate in August 2019. Previously, he had been a leading investment banker with Lehman Brothers since 1977, when it first merged with Kuhn Loeb & Company. Over the decades, Martinez has become an expert in mergers and acquisitions and in corporate restructurings. Since his retirement in 2003, he has served on the board of directors for a few companies, including the private health insurance corporation Cigna.
Donald M. Moak and William D. Zollars joined as governors in June, after being appointed by Trump and approved by voice vote in the Senate. Moak is a long-time donor to the Democratic Party and serves as CEO for his own public affairs and business consulting firm. He has served on the AFL-CIO Executive Council and Financial Oversight Committee of one of its departments. Zollars was a corporate executive of private transportation company YRC Worldwide from 1999 to 2011 and an executive of Ryder Integrated Logistics in the mid-1990s, and currently resides on the boards of various logistics and technology corporations. YRC faces allegations of fraud for financial practices carried out while Zollars was CEO. The bipartisan gang-up against the USPS and the response of the working class
In short, the USPS is headed by former Wall Street and corporate executives, whose collective millions are derived from decades of corporate raiding and financial speculation, ramping up corporate profits at the expense of the working class.
The fact that all of the current members received overwhelming bipartisan support in the Senate demonstrates that regardless of their pretensions, both Democrats and Republicans are united in their assault against postal workers and the social rights of the working class. This truth obliterates the claim by the unions, Bernie Sanders, and the Democratic Socialists of America that postal workers can “save USPS” by pressuring Congress to provide adequate financial assistance.
Moreover, the presence of many union advisors on the Board shows that unions themselves are involved in this bipartisan conspiracy. No doubt the postal unions stand to receive billions of dollars in public stock and other financial incentives, similar to the 2009 restructuring of the auto industry when the United Auto Workers became the largest shareholder in General Motors.
The management of the critical social service provided by the USPS cannot be left in the hands of the corporate oligarchs or their union lackeys. Postal workers must take matters into their own hands and form rank-and-file workplace committees to oppose the privatization of the post office. They should demand that the USPS be transformed instead into a fully funded public utility, run democratically by the working class, with the wages and benefits of all employees and retirees fully guaranteed.
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2020.08.01 05:43 havelina “Redacted” text follow up - I posted a video of someone figuring out that the redacted PDF text was incorrectly redacted and that the actual text was copyable - the copied text is in a comment below

The following is the full text from the document in this video https://www.reddit.com/Epstein/comments/i1fnoz/redacted_text_not_actually_redacted/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
During her recent deposition, Defendant refused to answer numerous questions about allegedly “adult” sexual activity related to Jeffrey Epstein. Because this activity is highly relevant to this case, Defendant should be ordered to answer questions about it. As the Court is aware, this defamation case involves Ms. Giuffre’s assertions that she and other females were recruited by Defendant to be sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein under the guise of being “massage therapists.” See Complaint, (DE 1), at ¶ 27 (Giuffre “described Maxwell’s role as one of the main women who Epstein used to procure under-aged girls for sexual activities and a primary co-conspirator and participant in his sexual abuse and sex trafficking scheme”). In response to these assertions, Defendant has made the sweeping claim that Ms. Giuffre’s assertions are “entirely false” and “entirely untrue.” Complaint, DE 1, at ¶ 31.
Yet during her deposition, Defendant refused to answer any questions that she construed as having something to do with “consensual adult sex.” Defense counsel supported that position that “frankly, [that’s] none of your business and I instruct the witness not to answer.” See Declaration of Sigrid S. McCawley (“McCawley Decl.”) at Exhibit 1, Tr. of Maxwell Depo. (Apr. 22, 2016) at 21. The result was that at a number of points throughout her deposition, Defendant refused to answer questions about subjects integral to this lawsuit, including questions about what the alleged “massage therapists” were doing at Jeffrey Epstein’s house and the sexual nature of those massages. Epstein a massage: For example, Defendant refused to answer questions about whether she had given Jeffrey Q. Have you ever given Jeffrey Epstein a massage? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form, foundation. And I'm going to instruct you not to answer that question. I don't have any problem with you asking questions about what the subject matter of this lawsuit is, which would be, as you've termed it, sexual trafficking of Ms. Roberts. MS. McCAWLEY: You can instruct her not to answer. That is your right. But I will bring her back for another deposition because it is part of the subject matter of this litigation so she should be answering these questions. This is civil litigation, deposition and she should be responsible for answering these questions. MR. PAGLIUCA: I disagree and you understand the bounds that I put on it. To the extent you are asking for information relating to any consensual adult interaction between my client and Mr. Epstein, I'm going to instruct her not to answer because it's not part of this litigation and it is her private confidential information, not subject to this deposition. MS. McCAWLEY: No, I don't. I will continue to ask my questions and you can continue to make your objections. Q. Did you ever participate from the time period of 1992 to 2009, did you ever participate in a massage with Jeffrey Epstein and another female? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection. Do not answer that question. Again, to the extent you are asking for some sort of illegal activity as you've construed in
connection with this case I don't have any problem with you asking that question. To the extent these questions involve consensual acts between adults, frankly, they're none of your business and I will instruct the witness not to answer. MS. McCAWLEY: This case involves sexual trafficking, sexual abuse, questions about her having interactions with other females is relevant to this case. She needs to answer these questions. MR. PAGLIUCA: I'm instructing her not to answer. MS. McCAWLEY: Then we will be back here again. See McCawley Decl. at Exhibit 2, Tr. of Maxwell Depo. (Apr. 22, 2016) at 19-22 (emphasis added). Defendant’s participation in massages with Epstein is a central part of this case. Ms. Giuffre has explained that during her first sexual encounter with Jeffrey Epstein, it was Defendant who provided instruction on how to do it and how to turn the massage into a sexual event. Obviously, proof that Defendant had previously massaged Epstein – include massages with sexual component – would provide important corroboration for Ms. Giuffre’s testimony at trial. And proof that Defendant was involved in massages will further help prove that statements to the press that Virginia’s allegations were “obvious lies” was itself an obvious lie. Johanna Sjoberg was hired to work for Epstein and provided massages. In the police report, Johanna admitted that Maxwell recruited her to work for Epstein. See McCawley Decl. at Exhibit 3, Giuffre000076-77 (police report indicating that Johanna was recruited by Maxwell). Yet during Defendant’s deposition, she refused to answer questions regarding Johanna Sjoberg. As another example, Defendant refused to answer questions about her knowledge that Q. Do you know what tasks Johanna was hired to performance? A. She was tasked to answer telephones. Q. Did you ever ask her to rub Jeffrey's feet? . . . A. I believe that I have read that, but I don't have any memory of it.
Q. Did you ever tell Johanna that she would get extra money if she provided Jeffrey massages? A. I was always happy to give career advice to people and I think that becoming somebody in the healthcare profession, either exercise instructor or nutritionist or professional massage therapist is an excellent job opportunity. Hourly wages are around 7, 8, $9 and as a professional healthcare provider you can earn somewhere between as we have established 100 to $200 and to be able to travel and have a job that pays that is a wonderful job opportunity. So in the context of advising people for opportunities for work, it is possible that I would have said that she should explore that as an option. Q. Did you tell her she would get extra money if she massaged Jeffrey? A. I'm just saying, I cannot recall the exact conversation. I give career advice and I have done that. Q. Did you ever have Johanna massage you? A. I did. Q. How many times? A. I don't recall how many times. Q. Was there sex involved? A. No. . . . Q. Did you ever have sexual contact with Johanna? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form and foundation. You need to give me an opportunity to get in between the questions. Anything that involves consensual sex on your part, I'm instructing you not to answer. Q. Did you ever have sexual contact with Johanna? A. [MR. PAGLIUCA?] Again, she is an adult -- Q. I’m asking you, did you ever have sexual contact with Johanna? A. I’ve just been instructed not to answer. Q. On what basis? A. You have to ask my lawyer. See McCawley Decl. at Exhibit 4, Tr. of Maxwell Depo. (Apr. 22, 2016) at 60-62 (emphasis added).
Here again, this information is critical to the case. Among other things, these questions are designed to show a modus operani (“M.O”) for Epstein and Maxwell – specifically, how they recruited for a non-sexual massage than converted the massage into sexual activities. Epstein’s sexual interests during massages: One last illustration comes from Defendant’s refusal to answer about her knowledge of encounters? Q. Does Jeffrey like to have his nipples pinched during sexual MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to form and foundation. A. I'm not referring to any advice on my counsel. I'm not talking about any adult sexual things when I was with him. Q. When Jeffrey would have a massage, would he request that the masseuse pinch his nipples while he was having a massage? A. I'm not talking about anything with consensual adult situation. See McCawley Decl. at Exhibit 5, Tr. of Maxwell Depo. (Apr. 22, 2016) at 82. that he will assert his Fifth Amendment privilege regarding his sexual activities. Accordingly, Ms. Giuffre must pursue questioning of Maxwell to obtain information on this subject. Here again, information about Epstein’s sexual idiosyncrasies will provide important corroboration to Ms. Giuffre’s testimony that she had sexual interactions of an identical nature with Epstein. occurred repeatedly throughout the deposition. See, e.g., McCawley Decl. at Composite Exhibit 6. 52-55; 64-65; 82; 92-93; 137-38; 307-09. The Court should compel Defendant to answer all these questions. In addition to the specific points made above, the “big picture” here reveals how vital such discovery is. At the core of Ms. Giuffre’s allegations is the allegation that Defendant lured her into a sexual situation While Epstein himself might also provide answers to these questions, it appears likely These refusals are not an isolated instance. Instead, similar refusals to answer questions with the offer of a job making money as a massage therapist; that Epstein always habitually tried
to turn massages into sex (that was his modus operandi and plan all along); and that Maxwell recruited other females for an ostensibly proper position, such as therapeutic masseuse, with knowledge that the intent was for that person would be pressured to provide sexual gratification to Epstein. As a result, Epstein’s use of massages for sexual purposes is a central part of this case. And Defendant’s role in those massages – and knowledge of the purposes of those massages – is a critical piece of evidence showing her state of mind when she attacked Ms. Giuffre’s assertions as “entirely untrue.” Ms. Giuffre intends to prove at trial that Defendant knew full well the sexual purpose for which she was recruiting females – including underage females like Ms. Giuffre. Ms. Giuffre is entitled to explore Defendant’s knowledge of the sexual activities that took place under the guise of “massages.” Otherwise Defendant will be able to portray to the jury an inaccurate picture of that what was happening at Epstein’s house what nothing more than run-of-the-mill massage therapy. See, e.g., McCawley Decl. at Exhibit 7, Tr. of Maxwell Depo. (Apr. 22, 2016) at 51 (“Q: Did [the pay for massage therapists] vary on what sexual acts they performed? . . . A: No, it varied depending on how much time, some massage therapists charge more and some charge less.”). Defendant’s refusal to answer questions about alleged “adult” consensual sex also blocks Ms. Giuffre from seeking legitimate discovery in this case. By refusing to answer questions about her and Epstein’s sexual activities with alleged “adults,” Defendant is essentially given the ability to refuse to answer any sexual question she does not wish to answer. Defendant simply has to deem the question as involving “consensual adult sex” and no need be given. The result is to leave Ms. Giuffre with no way of exploring the identity of these alleged adults, the ages of these alleged adults, and indeed whether they were adults at all. This allows Defendant to claim
that she is unaware of any sexual activity involving underage females, because (she claims) the only sexual activity she was aware involved adults. The Court should compel Ms. Maxwell to answer all questions about her knowledge relating to sexual activities with Epstein and other females while at Epstein’s various homes. See Fed. R. Crim. P. 37(a)(3)(B)(i); see, e.g., Kelly v. A1 Tech., No. 09 CIV. 962 LAK MHD, 2010 WL 1541585, at *20 (S.D.N.Y. Apr. 12, 2010) (“Under the Federal Rules, when a party refuses to answer a question during a deposition, the questioning party may subsequently move to compel disclosure of the testimony that it sought. The court must determine the propriety of the deponent's objection to answering the questions, and can order the deponent to provide improperly withheld answers during a continued deposition” (internal citations omitted)). Of course, the party objecting to discovery must carry the burden of proving the validity of its objections, particularly in light of “the broad and liberal construction afforded the federal discovery rules . . . .” John Wiley & Sons, Inc. v. Book Dog Books, LLC, 298 F.R.D. 184, 186 (S.D.N.Y. 2014). For purposes of a deposition, the information sought “need not be admissible at the trial if the discovery appears reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence.” Chen-Oster v. Goldman, Sachs & Co., 293 F.R.D. 557, 561 (S.D.N.Y. 2013) (citing Fed.R.Civ.P. 26(b)(1)). Defendant cannot carry her burden of showing that the questions asked are not reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence. This is a case in which sexual activities lie at the heart of the issues in dispute. As a result, it is hardly surprising to find that discovery pertains to alleged “adult” sexual activities – and questions about such subjects are entirely proper. See, e.g., Condit v. Dunne, 225 F.R.D. 100, 113 (S.D.N.Y. 2004) (in defamation case, “Plaintiff is hereby ordered to answer questions regarding his sexual relationships in so far
as they are relevant to a defense of substantial truth, mitigation of damages, or impeachment of plaintiff.”); Weber v. Multimedia Entm't, Inc., No. 97 CIV. 0682 PKL THK, 1997 WL 729039, at *3 (S.D.N.Y. Nov. 24, 1997) (“While discovery is not unlimited and may not unnecessarily intrude into private matters, in the instant case inquiry into private matters is clearly relevant to the subject matter of the suit. Accordingly, plaintiff Misty Weber shall respond to defendants' interrogatories concerning her sexual partners . . . .”). Generally speaking, instructions from attorneys to their clients not to answer questions at a deposition should be “limited to [issues regarding] privilege.” Morales v. Zondo, Inc., 204 F.R.D. 50, 54 (S.D.N.Y. 2001). In this case, defense counsel ranged far beyond the normal parameters of objections and sought to decide for himself what issues were relevant. That was improper and the Court should order a resumption of the Defendant’s deposition so that she can answer questions about her knowledge of sexual activity relating to Jeffrey Epstein. CONCLUSION Defendant should be ordered to sit for a follow-up deposition and directed to answer questions regarding her knowledge of alleged “adult” sexual activity. Dated: May 5, 2016. Respectfully Submitted, BOIES, SCHILLER & FLEXNER LLP By: /s/ Sigrid McCawley Sigrid McCawley (Pro Hac Vice) Meredith Schultz (Pro Hac Vice) Boies Schiller & Flexner LLP 401 E. Las Olas Blvd., Suite 1200 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33301 (954) 356-0011 David Boies Boies Schiller & Flexner LLP
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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 1 of 10 Virginia L. Giuffre, Plaintiff, v.
Ghislaine Maxwell,
Defendant. ________________________________/ Case No.: 15-cv-07433-RWS United States District Court Southern District of New York
PLAINTIFF’S REDACTED MOTION TO COMPEL DEFENDANT TO ANSWER DEPOSITION QUESTIONS FILED UNDER SEAL1 Plaintiff Virginia Giuffre, by and through her undersigned counsel, hereby files this Motion to Compel Defendant to Answer Deposition Questions. During her recent deposition, Defendant refused to answer numerous questions about allegedly “adult” sexual activity related to Jeffrey Epstein. Because this activity is highly relevant to this case, Defendant should be ordered to answer questions about it. As the Court is aware, this defamation case involves Ms. Giuffre’s assertions that she and other females were recruited by Defendant to be sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein under the guise of being “massage therapists.” See Complaint, (DE 1), at ¶ 27 (Giuffre “described Maxwell’s role as one of the main women who Epstein used to procure under-aged girls for sexual activities and a primary co-conspirator and participant in his sexual abuse and sex trafficking scheme”). In response to these assertions, Defendant has made the sweeping claim that Ms. Giuffre’s assertions are “entirely false” and “entirely untrue.” Complaint, DE 1, at ¶ 31. 1 Defendant has labelled her entire deposition transcript as Confidential at this time. Counsel for the parties conferred at the deposition regarding answering questions. 1
Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 2 of 10 Yet during her deposition, Defendant refused to answer any questions that she construed as having something to do with “consensual adult sex.” Defense counsel supported that position that “frankly, [that’s] none of your business and I instruct the witness not to answer.” See Declaration of Sigrid S. McCawley (“McCawley Decl.”) at Exhibit 1, Tr. of Maxwell Depo. (Apr. 22, 2016) at 21. The result was that at a number of points throughout her deposition, Defendant refused to answer questions about subjects integral to this lawsuit, including questions about what the alleged “massage therapists” were doing at Jeffrey Epstein’s house and the sexual nature of those massages. Epstein a massage: For example, Defendant refused to answer questions about whether she had given Jeffrey Q. Have you ever given Jeffrey Epstein a massage? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form, foundation. And I'm going to instruct you not to answer that question. I don't have any problem with you asking questions about what the subject matter of this lawsuit is, which would be, as you've termed it, sexual trafficking of Ms. Roberts. MS. McCAWLEY: You can instruct her not to answer. That is your right. But I will bring her back for another deposition because it is part of the subject matter of this litigation so she should be answering these questions. This is civil litigation, deposition and she should be responsible for answering these questions. MR. PAGLIUCA: I disagree and you understand the bounds that I put on it. To the extent you are asking for information relating to any consensual adult interaction between my client and Mr. Epstein, I'm going to instruct her not to answer because it's not part of this litigation and it is her private confidential information, not subject to this deposition. MS. McCAWLEY: No, I don't. I will continue to ask my questions and you can continue to make your objections. Q. Did you ever participate from the time period of 1992 to 2009, did you ever participate in a massage with Jeffrey Epstein and another female? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection. Do not answer that question. Again, to the extent you are asking for some sort of illegal activity as you've construed in 2
Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 3 of 10 connection with this case I don't have any problem with you asking that question. To the extent these questions involve consensual acts between adults, frankly, they're none of your business and I will instruct the witness not to answer. MS. McCAWLEY: This case involves sexual trafficking, sexual abuse, questions about her having interactions with other females is relevant to this case. She needs to answer these questions. MR. PAGLIUCA: I'm instructing her not to answer. MS. McCAWLEY: Then we will be back here again. See McCawley Decl. at Exhibit 2, Tr. of Maxwell Depo. (Apr. 22, 2016) at 19-22 (emphasis added). Defendant’s participation in massages with Epstein is a central part of this case. Ms. Giuffre has explained that during her first sexual encounter with Jeffrey Epstein, it was Defendant who provided instruction on how to do it and how to turn the massage into a sexual event. Obviously, proof that Defendant had previously massaged Epstein – include massages with sexual component – would provide important corroboration for Ms. Giuffre’s testimony at trial. And proof that Defendant was involved in massages will further help prove that statements to the press that Virginia’s allegations were “obvious lies” was itself an obvious lie. Johanna Sjoberg was hired to work for Epstein and provided massages. In the police report, Johanna admitted that Maxwell recruited her to work for Epstein. See McCawley Decl. at Exhibit 3, Giuffre000076-77 (police report indicating that Johanna was recruited by Maxwell). Yet during Defendant’s deposition, she refused to answer questions regarding Johanna Sjoberg. As another example, Defendant refused to answer questions about her knowledge that Q. Do you know what tasks Johanna was hired to performance? A. She was tasked to answer telephones. Q. Did you ever ask her to rub Jeffrey's feet? . . . A. I believe that I have read that, but I don't have any memory of it. 3
Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 4 of 10 Q. Did you ever tell Johanna that she would get extra money if she provided Jeffrey massages? A. I was always happy to give career advice to people and I think that becoming somebody in the healthcare profession, either exercise instructor or nutritionist or professional massage therapist is an excellent job opportunity. Hourly wages are around 7, 8, $9 and as a professional healthcare provider you can earn somewhere between as we have established 100 to $200 and to be able to travel and have a job that pays that is a wonderful job opportunity. So in the context of advising people for opportunities for work, it is possible that I would have said that she should explore that as an option. Q. Did you tell her she would get extra money if she massaged Jeffrey? A. I'm just saying, I cannot recall the exact conversation. I give career advice and I have done that. Q. Did you ever have Johanna massage you? A. I did. Q. How many times? A. I don't recall how many times. Q. Was there sex involved? A. No. . . . Q. Did you ever have sexual contact with Johanna? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form and foundation. You need to give me an opportunity to get in between the questions. Anything that involves consensual sex on your part, I'm instructing you not to answer. Q. Did you ever have sexual contact with Johanna? A. [MR. PAGLIUCA?] Again, she is an adult -- Q. I’m asking you, did you ever have sexual contact with Johanna? A. I’ve just been instructed not to answer. Q. On what basis? A. You have to ask my lawyer. See McCawley Decl. at Exhibit 4, Tr. of Maxwell Depo. (Apr. 22, 2016) at 60-62 (emphasis added). 4
Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 5 of 10 Here again, this information is critical to the case. Among other things, these questions are designed to show a modus operani (“M.O”) for Epstein and Maxwell – specifically, how they recruited for a non-sexual massage than converted the massage into sexual activities. Epstein’s sexual interests during massages: One last illustration comes from Defendant’s refusal to answer about her knowledge of encounters? Q. Does Jeffrey like to have his nipples pinched during sexual MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to form and foundation. A. I'm not referring to any advice on my counsel. I'm not talking about any adult sexual things when I was with him. Q. When Jeffrey would have a massage, would he request that the masseuse pinch his nipples while he was having a massage? A. I'm not talking about anything with consensual adult situation. See McCawley Decl. at Exhibit 5, Tr. of Maxwell Depo. (Apr. 22, 2016) at 82. that he will assert his Fifth Amendment privilege regarding his sexual activities. Accordingly, Ms. Giuffre must pursue questioning of Maxwell to obtain information on this subject. Here again, information about Epstein’s sexual idiosyncrasies will provide important corroboration to Ms. Giuffre’s testimony that she had sexual interactions of an identical nature with Epstein. occurred repeatedly throughout the deposition. See, e.g., McCawley Decl. at Composite Exhibit 6. 52-55; 64-65; 82; 92-93; 137-38; 307-09. The Court should compel Defendant to answer all these questions. In addition to the specific points made above, the “big picture” here reveals how vital such discovery is. At the core of Ms. Giuffre’s allegations is the allegation that Defendant lured her into a sexual situation While Epstein himself might also provide answers to these questions, it appears likely These refusals are not an isolated instance. Instead, similar refusals to answer questions with the offer of a job making money as a massage therapist; that Epstein always habitually t ried 5
Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 6 of 10 to turn massages into sex (that was his modus operandi and plan all along); and that Maxwell recruited other females for an ostensibly proper position, such as therapeutic masseuse, with knowledge that the intent was for that person would be pressured to provide sexual gratification to Epstein. As a result, Epstein’s use of massages for sexual purposes is a central part of this case. And Defendant’s role in those massages – and knowledge of the purposes of those massages – is a critical piece of evidence showing her state of mind when she attacked Ms. Giuffre’s assertions as “entirely untrue.” Ms. Giuffre intends to prove at trial that Defendant knew full well the sexual purpose for which she was recruiting females – including underage females like Ms. Giuffre. Ms. Giuffre is entitled to explore Defendant’s knowledge of the sexual activities that took place under the guise of “massages.” Otherwise Defendant will be able to portray to the jury an inaccurate picture of that what was happening at Epstein’s house what nothing more than run-of-the-mill massage therapy. See, e.g., McCawley Decl. at Exhibit 7, Tr. of Maxwell Depo. (Apr. 22, 2016) at 51 (“Q: Did [the pay for massage therapists] vary on what sexual acts they performed? . . . A: No, it varied depending on how much time, some massage therapists charge more and some charge less.”). Defendant’s refusal to answer questions about alleged “adult” consensual sex also blocks Ms. Giuffre from seeking legitimate discovery in this case. By refusing to answer questions about her and Epstein’s sexual activities with alleged “adults,” Defendant is essentially given the ability to refuse to answer any sexual question she does not wish to answer. Defendant simply has to deem the question as involving “consensual adult sex” and no need be given. The result is to leave Ms. Giuffre with no way of exploring the identity of these alleged adults, the ages of these alleged adults, and indeed whether they were adults at all. This allows Defendant to claim 6
Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 7 of 10 that she is unaware of any sexual activity involving underage females, because (she claims) the only sexual activity she was aware involved adults. The Court should compel Ms. Maxwell to answer all questions about her knowledge relating to sexual activities with Epstein and other females while at Epstein’s various homes. See Fed. R. Crim. P. 37(a)(3)(B)(i); see, e.g., Kelly v. A1 Tech., No. 09 CIV. 962 LAK MHD, 2010 WL 1541585, at *20 (S.D.N.Y. Apr. 12, 2010) (“Under the Federal Rules, when a party refuses to answer a question during a deposition, the questioning party may subsequently move to compel disclosure of the testimony that it sought. The court must determine the propriety of the deponent's objection to answering the questions, and can order the deponent to provide improperly withheld answers during a continued deposition” (internal citations omitted)). Of course, the party objecting to discovery must carry the burden of proving the validity of its objections, particularly in light of “the broad and liberal construction afforded the federal discovery rules . . . .” John Wiley & Sons, Inc. v. Book Dog Books, LLC, 298 F.R.D. 184, 186 (S.D.N.Y. 2014). For purposes of a deposition, the information sought “need not be admissible at the trial if the discovery appears reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence.” Chen-Oster v. Goldman, Sachs & Co., 293 F.R.D. 557, 561 (S.D.N.Y. 2013) (citing Fed.R.Civ.P. 26(b)(1)). Defendant cannot carry her burden of showing that the questions asked are not reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence. This is a case in which sexual activities lie at the heart of the issues in dispute. As a result, it is hardly surprising to find that discovery pertains to alleged “adult” sexual activities – and questions about such subjects are entirely proper. See, e.g., Condit v. Dunne, 225 F.R.D. 100, 113 (S.D.N.Y. 2004) (in defamation case, “Plaintiff is hereby ordered to answer questions regarding his sexual relationships in so far 7
Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 8 of 10 as they are relevant to a defense of substantial truth, mitigation of damages, or impeachment of plaintiff.”); Weber v. Multimedia Entm't, Inc., No. 97 CIV. 0682 PKL THK, 1997 WL 729039, at *3 (S.D.N.Y. Nov. 24, 1997) (“While discovery is not unlimited and may not unnecessarily intrude into private matters, in the instant case inquiry into private matters is clearly relevant to the subject matter of the suit. Accordingly, plaintiff Misty Weber shall respond to defendants' interrogatories concerning her sexual partners . . . .”). Generally speaking, instructions from attorneys to their clients not to answer questions at a deposition should be “limited to [issues regarding] privilege.” Morales v. Zondo, Inc., 204 F.R.D. 50, 54 (S.D.N.Y. 2001). In this case, defense counsel ranged far beyond the normal parameters of objections and sought to decide for himself what issues were relevant. That was improper and the Court should order a resumption of the Defendant’s deposition so that she can answer questions about her knowledge of sexual activity relating to Jeffrey Epstein. CONCLUSION Defendant should be ordered to sit for a follow-up deposition and directed to answer questions regarding her knowledge of alleged “adult” sexual activity. Dated: May 5, 2016. Respectfully Submitted, BOIES, SCHILLER & FLEXNER LLP By: /s/ Sigrid McCawley Sigrid McCawley (Pro Hac Vice) Meredith Schultz (Pro Hac Vice) Boies Schiller & Flexner LLP 401 E. Las Olas Blvd., Suite 1200 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33301 (954) 356-0011 David Boies Boies Schiller & Flexner LLP 8
Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 9 of 10 333 Main Street Armonk, NY 10504 Bradley J. Edwards (Pro Hac Vice) FARMER, JAFFE, WEISSING, EDWARDS, FISTOS & LEHRMAN, P.L. 425 North Andrews Avenue, Suite 2 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301 (954) 524-2820 Paul G. Cassell (Pro Hac Vice) S.J. Quinney College of Law University of Utah 383 University St. Salt Lake City, UT 84112 (801) 585-52022 2 This daytime business address is provided for identification and correspondence purposes only and is not intended to imply institutional endorsement by the University of Utah for this private representation. 9
Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 10 of 10 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE I HEREBY CERTIFY that on the 5th day of May, 2016, I electronically filed the foregoing document with the Clerk of Court by using the CM/ECF system. I also certify that the foregoing document is being served this day on the individuals identified below via transmission of Notices of Electronic Filing generated by CM/ECF. Laura A. Menninger, Esq. Jeffrey Pagliuca, Esq. HADDON, MORGAN & FOREMAN, P.C. 150 East 10th Avenue Denver, Colorado 80203 Tel: (303) 831-7364 Fax: (303) 832-2628 Email: [email protected] [email protected] /s/ Sigrid S. McCawley Sigrid S. McCawley
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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 1 of 10 Virginia L. Giuffre, Plaintiff, v. Ghislaine Maxwell, Defendant. ________________________________/ Case No.: 15-cv-07433-RWS United States District Court Southern District of New York PLAINTIFF’S REDACTED MOTION TO COMPEL DEFENDANT TO ANSWER DEPOSITION QUESTIONS FILED UNDER SEAL1 Plaintiff Virginia Giuffre, by and through her undersigned counsel, hereby files this Motion to Compel Defendant to Answer Deposition Questions. During her recent deposition, Defendant refused to answer numerous questions about allegedly “adult” sexual activity related to Jeffrey Epstein. Because this activity is highly relevant to this case, Defendant should be ordered to answer questions about it. As the Court is aware, this defamation case involves Ms. Giuffre’s assertions that she and other females were recruited by Defendant to be sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein under the guise of being “massage therapists.” See Complaint, (DE 1), at ¶ 27 (Giuffre “described Maxwell’s role as one of the main women who Epstein used to procure under-aged girls for sexual activities and a primary co-conspirator and participant in his sexual abuse and sex trafficking scheme”). In response to these assertions, Defendant has made the sweeping claim that Ms. Giuffre’s assertions are “entirely false” and “entirely untrue.” Complaint, DE 1, at ¶ 31. 1 Defendant has labelled her entire deposition transcript as Confidential at this time. Counsel for the parties conferred at the deposition regarding answering questions. 1
Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 2 of 10 Yet during her deposition, Defendant refused to answer any questions that she construed as having something to do with “consensual adult sex.” Defense counsel supported that position that “frankly, [that’s] none of your business and I instruct the witness not to answer.” See Declaration of Sigrid S. McCawley (“McCawley Decl.”) at Exhibit 1, Tr. of Maxwell Depo. (Apr. 22, 2016) at 21. The result was that at a number of points throughout her deposition, Defendant refused to answer questions about subjects integral to this lawsuit, including questions about what the alleged “massage therapists” were doing at Jeffrey Epstein’s house and the sexual nature of those massages. Epstein a massage: For example, Defendant refused to answer questions about whether she had given Jeffrey Q. Have you ever given Jeffrey Epstein a massage? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form, foundation. And I'm going to instruct you not to answer that question. I don't have any problem with you asking questions about what the subject matter of this lawsuit is, which would be, as you've termed it, sexual trafficking of Ms. Roberts. MS. McCAWLEY: You can instruct her not to answer. That is your right. But I will bring her back for another deposition because it is part of the subject matter of this litigation so she should be answering these questions. This is civil litigation, deposition and she should be responsible for answering these questions. MR. PAGLIUCA: I disagree and you understand the bounds that I put on it. To the extent you are asking for information relating to any consensual adult interaction between my client and Mr. Epstein, I'm going to instruct her not to answer because it's not part of this litigation and it is her private confidential information, not subject to this deposition. MS. McCAWLEY: No, I don't. I will continue to ask my questions and you can continue to make your objections. Q. Did you ever participate from the time period of 1992 to 2009, did you ever participate in a massage with Jeffrey Epstein and another female? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection. Do not answer that question. Again, to the extent you are asking for some sort of illegal activity as you've construed in 2
Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 3 of 10 connection with this case I don't have any problem with you asking that question. To the extent these questions involve consensual acts between adults, frankly, they're none of your business and I will instruct the witness not to answer. MS. McCAWLEY: This case involves sexual trafficking, sexual abuse, questions about her having interactions with other females is relevant to this case. She needs to answer these questions. MR. PAGLIUCA: I'm instructing her not to answer. MS. McCAWLEY: Then we will be back here again. See McCawley Decl. at Exhibit 2, Tr. of Maxwell Depo. (Apr. 22, 2016) at 19-22 (emphasis added). Defendant’s participation in massages with Epstein is a central part of this case. Ms. Giuffre has explained that during her first sexual encounter with Jeffrey Epstein, it was Defendant who provided instruction on how to do it and how to turn the massage into a sexual event. Obviously, proof that Defendant had previously massaged Epstein – include massages with sexual component – would provide important corroboration for Ms. Giuffre’s testimony at trial. And proof that Defendant was involved in massages will further help prove that statements to the press that Virginia’s allegations were “obvious lies” was itself an obvious lie. Johanna Sjoberg was hired to work for Epstein and provided massages. In the police report, Johanna admitted that Maxwell recruited her to work for Epstein. See McCawley Decl. at Exhibit 3, Giuffre000076-77 (police report indicating that Johanna was recruited by Maxwell). Yet during Defendant’s deposition, she refused to answer questions regarding Johanna Sjoberg. As another example, Defendant refused to answer questions about her knowledge that Q. Do you know what tasks Johanna was hired to performance? A. She was tasked to answer telephones. Q. Did you ever ask her to rub Jeffrey's feet? . . . A. I believe that I have read that, but I don't have any memory of it. 3
Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 4 of 10 Q. Did you ever tell Johanna that she would get extra money if she provided Jeffrey massages? A. I was always happy to give career advice to people and I think that becoming somebody in the healthcare profession, either exercise instructor or nutritionist or professional massage therapist is an excellent job opportunity. Hourly wages are around 7, 8, $9 and as a professional healthcare provider you can earn somewhere between as we have established 100 to $200 and to be able to travel and have a job that pays that is a wonderful job opportunity. So in the context of advising people for opportunities for work, it is possible that I would have said that she should explore that as an option. Q. Did you tell her she would get extra money if she massaged Jeffrey? A. I'm just saying, I cannot recall the exact conversation. I give career advice and I have done that. Q. Did you ever have Johanna massage you? A. I did. Q. How many times? A. I don't recall how many times. Q. Was there sex involved? A. No. . . . Q. Did you ever have sexual contact with Johanna? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form and foundation. You need to give me an opportunity to get in between the questions. Anything that involves consensual sex on your part, I'm instructing you not to answer. Q. Did you ever have sexual contact with Johanna? A. [MR. PAGLIUCA?] Again, she is an adult -- Q. I’m asking you, did you ever have sexual contact with Johanna? A. I’ve just been instructed not to answer. Q. On what basis? A. You have to ask my lawyer. See McCawley Decl. at Exhibit 4, Tr. of Maxwell Depo. (Apr. 22, 2016) at 60-62 (emphasis added). 4
Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 5 of 10 Here again, this information is critical to the case. Among other things, these questions are designed to show a modus operani (“M.O”) for Epstein and Maxwell – specifically, how they recruited for a non-sexual massage than converted the massage into sexual activities. Epstein’s sexual interests during massages: One last illustration comes from Defendant’s refusal to answer about her knowledge of encounters? Q. Does Jeffrey like to have his nipples pinched during sexual MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to form and foundation. A. I'm not referring to any advice on my counsel. I'm not talking about any adult sexual things when I was with him. Q. When Jeffrey would have a massage, would he request that the masseuse pinch his nipples while he was having a massage? A. I'm not talking about anything with consensual adult situation. See McCawley Decl. at Exhibit 5, Tr. of Maxwell Depo. (Apr. 22, 2016) at 82. that he will assert his Fifth Amendment privilege regarding his sexual activities. Accordingly, Ms. Giuffre must pursue questioning of Maxwell to obtain information on this subject. Here again, information about Epstein’s sexual idiosyncrasies will provide important corroboration to Ms. Giuffre’s testimony that she had sexual interactions of an identical nature with Epstein. occurred repeatedly throughout the deposition. See, e.g., McCawley Decl. at Composite Exhibit 6. 52-55; 64-65; 82; 92-93; 137-38; 307-09. The Court should compel Defendant to answer all these questions. In addition to the specific points made above, the “big picture” here reveals how vital such discovery is. At the core of Ms. Giuffre’s allegations is the allegation that Defendant lured her into a sexual situation While Epstein himself might also provide answers to these questions, it appears likely These refusals are not an isolated instance. Instead, similar refusals to answer questions with the offer of a job making money as a massage therapist; that Epstein always habitually t ried 5
Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 6 of 10 to turn massages into sex (that was his modus operandi and plan all along); and that Maxwell recruited other females for an ostensibly proper position, such as therapeutic masseuse, with knowledge that the intent was for that person would be pressured to provide sexual gratification to Epstein. As a result, Epstein’s use of massages for sexual purposes is a central part of this case. And Defendant’s role in those massages – and knowledge of the purposes of those massages – is a critical piece of evidence showing her state of mind when she attacked Ms. Giuffre’s assertions as “entirely untrue.” Ms. Giuffre intends to prove at trial that Defendant knew full well the sexual purpose for which she was recruiting females – including underage females like Ms. Giuffre. Ms. Giuffre is entitled to explore Defendant’s knowledge of the sexual activities that took place under the guise of “massages.” Otherwise Defendant will be able to portray to the jury an inaccurate picture of that what was happening at Epstein’s house what nothing more than run-of-the-mill massage therapy. See, e.g., McCawley Decl. at Exhibit 7, Tr. of Maxwell Depo. (Apr. 22, 2016) at 51 (“Q: Did [the pay for massage therapists] vary on what sexual acts they performed? . . . A: No, it varied depending on how much time, some massage therapists charge more and some charge less.”). Defendant’s refusal to answer questions about alleged “adult” consensual sex also blocks Ms. Giuffre from seeking legitimate discovery in this case. By refusing to answer questions about her and Epstein’s sexual activities with alleged “adults,” Defendant is essentially given the ability to refuse to answer any sexual question she does not wish to answer. Defendant simply has to deem the question as involving “consensual adult sex” and no need be given. The result is to leave Ms. Giuffre with no way of exploring the identity of these alleged adults, the ages of these alleged adults, and indeed whether they were adults at all. This allows Defendant to claim 6
Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 7 of 10 that she is unaware of any sexual activity involving underage females, because (she claims) the only sexual activity she was aware involved adults. The Court should compel Ms. Maxwell to answer all questions about her knowledge relating to sexual activities with Epstein and other females while at Epstein’s various homes. See Fed. R. Crim. P. 37(a)(3)(B)(i); see, e.g., Kelly v. A1 Tech., No. 09 CIV. 962 LAK MHD, 2010 WL 1541585, at *20 (S.D.N.Y. Apr. 12, 2010) (“Under the Federal Rules, when a party refuses to answer a question during a deposition, the questioning party may subsequently move to compel disclosure of the testimony that it sought. The court must determine the propriety of the deponent's objection to answering the questions, and can order the deponent to provide improperly withheld answers during a continued deposition” (internal citations omitted)). Of course, the party objecting to discovery must carry the burden of proving the validity of its objections, particularly in light of “the broad and liberal construction afforded the federal discovery rules . . . .” John Wiley & Sons, Inc. v. Book Dog Books, LLC, 298 F.R.D. 184, 186 (S.D.N.Y. 2014). For purposes of a deposition, the information sought “need not be admissible at the trial if the discovery appears reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence.” Chen-Oster v. Goldman, Sachs & Co., 293 F.R.D. 557, 561 (S.D.N.Y. 2013) (citing Fed.R.Civ.P. 26(b)(1)). Defendant cannot carry her burden of showing that the questions asked are not reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence. This is a case in which sexual activities lie at the heart of the issues in dispute. As a result, it is hardly surprising to find that discovery pertains to alleged “adult” sexual activities – and questions about such subjects are entirely proper. See, e.g., Condit v. Dunne, 225 F.R.D. 100, 113 (S.D.N.Y. 2004) (in defamation case, “Plaintiff is hereby ordered to answer questions regarding his sexual relationships in so far 7
Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 8 of 10 as they are relevant to a defense of substantial truth, mitigation of damages, or impeachment of plaintiff.”); Weber v. Multimedia Entm't, Inc., No. 97 CIV. 0682 PKL THK, 1997 WL 729039, at *3 (S.D.N.Y. Nov. 24, 1997) (“While discovery is not unlimited and may not unnecessarily intrude into private matters, in the instant case inquiry into private matters is clearly relevant to the subject matter of the suit. Accordingly, plaintiff Misty Weber shall respond to defendants' interrogatories concerning her sexual partners . . . .”). Generally speaking, instructions from attorneys to their clients not to answer questions at a deposition should be “limited to [issues regarding] privilege.” Morales v. Zondo, Inc., 204 F.R.D. 50, 54 (S.D.N.Y. 2001). In this case, defense counsel ranged far beyond the normal parameters of objections and sought to decide for himself what issues were relevant. That was improper and the Court should order a resumption of the Defendant’s deposition so that she can answer questions about her knowledge of sexual activity relating to Jeffrey Epstein. CONCLUSION Defendant should be ordered to sit for a follow-up deposition and directed to answer questions regarding her knowledge of alleged “adult” sexual activity. Dated: May 5, 2016. Respectfully Submitted, BOIES, SCHILLER & FLEXNER LLP By: /s/ Sigrid McCawley Sigrid McCawley (Pro Hac Vice) Meredith Schultz (Pro Hac Vice) Boies Schiller & Flexner LLP 401 E. Las Olas Blvd., Suite 1200 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33301 (954) 356-0011 David Boies Boies Schiller & Flexner LLP 8
Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 9 of 10 333 Main Street Armonk, NY 10504 Bradley J. Edwards (Pro Hac Vice) FARMER, JAFFE, WEISSING, EDWARDS, FISTOS & LEHRMAN, P.L. 425 North Andrews Avenue, Suite 2 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301 (954) 524-2820 Paul G. Cassell (Pro Hac Vice) S.J. Quinney College of Law University of Utah 383 University St. Salt Lake City, UT 84112 (801) 585-52022 2 This daytime business address is provided for identification and correspondence purposes only and is not intended to imply institutional endorsement by the University of Utah for this private representation. 9
Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 143 Filed 05/05/16 Page 10 of 10 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE I HEREBY CERTIFY that on the 5th day of May, 2016, I electronically filed the foregoing document with the Clerk of Court by using the CM/ECF system. I also certify that the foregoing document is being served this day on the individuals identified below via transmission of Notices of Electronic Filing generated by CM/ECF. Laura A. Menninger, Esq. Jeffrey Pagliuca, Esq. HADDON, MORGAN & FOREMAN, P.C. 150 East 10th Avenue Denver, Colorado 80203 Tel: (303) 831-7364 Fax: (303) 832-2628 Email: [email protected] [email protected] /s/ Sigrid S. McCawley Sigrid S. McCawley 10
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